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Re: Why? - EXPLANATION!

From David Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org>
Newsgroups alt.computer.workshop, comp.sys.mac.system, uk.comp.sys.mac
Subject Re: Why? - EXPLANATION!
Date 2024-08-24 23:29 +0100
Message-ID <liv576Fh8maU2@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
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On 24/08/2024 23:01, Snit wrote:
> On Aug 24, 2024 at 1:50:21 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
> <liuvcdFgbtcU3@mid.individual.net>:
> 
>> On 24/08/2024 19:59, Snit wrote:
>>> On Aug 24, 2024 at 11:25:04 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>> <liums0Ff466U1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>
>>>> On 24/08/2024 16:46, Snit wrote:
>>>>> On Aug 24, 2024 at 12:43:14 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>> <lith8iF9ivbU3@mid.individual.net>:
>>>> [....]
>>>>>> I most certainly 'touched a nerve' - I must have got close to the truth.
>>>>>
>>>>> No. You have repeatedly broken terms of service and suggested that apps and
>>>>> developers were doing wrong, and did so with no evidence. You are the one who
>>>>> has pointed to your behavior as you do that. This has resulted in you getting
>>>>> banned. It is frustrating for you, sure, but it does not mean you have gotten
>>>>> closer to some deep "truth" about them... you have to face you have an issue
>>>>> with repeatedly asking about apps and developers in ways that are not
>>>>> appropriate.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps you think asking about THIS result is "not appropriate"?
>>>>
>>>> https://i.ibb.co/PZJ7tmr/Screenshot-2020-08-01-at-08-23-38.png
>>>>
>>>> Is that what you think?
>>>
>>> What do you think is not appropriate about it?
>>
>> Are you surmising that the message is going against the grain of what
>> most folk on the forums think?
>>
>> What if they are wrong?!!
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please give them a ring yourself and ask Apple Support about the ASC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forums and let us know what they say over there in the USA.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have no desire to be kicked from the forums for harassing them over how they
>>>>>>>>>>>>> handle people who do not respect their rules.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> How is calling Apple Support on the 'phone going to hassle anyone on the
>>>>>>>>>>>> ASC forums?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> OK, no désire to harass Apple in any medium.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I didn't ask you to harass Apple.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You want me to contact them and ask about your battle with them. That would
>>>>>>>>> not be appropriate.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That is not correct.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I suggested that you 'phone Apple Support and ask if it is OK for you to
>>>>>>>> reinvent yourself under a new Apple ID in order to gain access to the
>>>>>>>> ASC forums.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If not for joining your battle with them they why? And you said they already
>>>>>>> said it was OK. Why ask when we have an answer? This is all so odd to me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I simply wanted you to check - so that both you and others reading here
>>>>>> would would have a second opinion.
>>>>>
>>>>> WHY? For what purpose? It is so weird!
>>>>
>>>> I'm sure most folk believe that to access the ASC forums people have to
>>>> use their AppleID (So that they are identifiable to Apple).
>>>>
>>>> That is NOT the case.
>>>
>>> And? We have talked about this. Not sure what you are looking for.
>>
>> 'Bad guys' can infiltrate the forums with ease.
> 
> And? As you have seen, when someone is being abusive they are kicked out.
>>
>> Apple should be more stringent in my opinion.
> 
> That is fair.
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> They make up their own rules, Snit.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sure... it is their forum. Who else should make the rules?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://discussions.apple.com/terms
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Apple should make the rules - and Apple should moderate the ASC forums.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Apple do NOT moderate the ASC forums.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you don't believe me, ask the question on the ASC forums!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> They oversee it, surely.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm not sure that they do. How will you find out the truth of this matter?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am not really concerned about the forums there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Indeed. I got that impression.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What about THIS place?
>>>>>> https://x704.net/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=9373&p=124552#p124552
>>>>>
>>>>> I have gone there on your request in the past. Nothing there of much interest
>>>>> to me. No reason to assume anything nefarious.
>>>>
>>>> THAT comment of yours rather surprises me. You appear to enjoy asking
>>>> and answering questions and that BBS seems to fit that bill admirably.
>>>
>>> I went there and did not see any questions I felt needed to be answered or any
>>> significant tech talks that pulled me in. Is there one going on you would
>>> think I would be interested in?
>>
>> There are LOTS of unanswered questions. They are a separate category.
> 
> Any specific ones you want to point to? How long would it take to find a
> question or topic of interest? Any why that forum when there are many out
> there? I am also in FB groups.
>>
>>>> Why don't you like the venue for your everyday adventures?
>>>
>>> Was not fond of the format and the content did not pull me in. What
>>> conversations there have you found to be interesting?
>>
>> The ones where "Anonymous" curtailed the discussion!
> 
> Can you offer a link again?
>>
>>>>>> You'll note that it's run by 'BDAqua' - a top honcho on the ASC forums!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There's more on-line than Usenet! 😉
>>
>> Can you determine any real-life information about BDAqua?
> 
> The first question is: do I think I have the right to do so? If so do I think
> there is the info required to do so?

I'll come back to this tomorrow!

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