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Re: Why? - EXPLANATION!

From David Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org>
Newsgroups alt.computer.workshop, comp.sys.mac.system, uk.comp.sys.mac
Subject Re: Why? - EXPLANATION!
Date 2024-08-24 08:43 +0100
Message-ID <lith8iF9ivbU3@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
References <md5:ODgDlmrG+kW1iN1G9rWcSA==> <lirug4F1vc0U4@mid.individual.net> <66c8ee39$0$1428226$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <liskfmF5itgU5@mid.individual.net> <66c92386$0$1783$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>

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On 24/08/2024 01:04, Snit wrote:
> On Aug 23, 2024 at 4:32:06 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
> <liskfmF5itgU5@mid.individual.net>:
> 
>> On 23/08/2024 21:16, Snit wrote:
>>> On Aug 23, 2024 at 10:16:52 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>> <lirug4F1vc0U4@mid.individual.net>:
>>>
>>>> On 23/08/2024 17:09, Snit wrote:
>>>>> On Aug 23, 2024 at 9:04:04 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>> <lirq7kF1vc0U1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 23/08/2024 15:31, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>> On Aug 23, 2024 at 1:20:03 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>> <liqv1jFsidqU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 23/08/2024 00:10, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 2:14:09 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>> <lipo11Fn1psU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 22/08/2024 18:01, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 9:56:43 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> <lip8ubFkrm3U1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 22/08/2024 17:52, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 7:36:19 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <lip0n3Fjk9uU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 22/08/2024 14:59, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 4:34:10 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <liom1iFi2vaU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Data could not be decoded.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Data could not be decoded.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any idea why?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Context?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's a screenshot - you'll have to magnify:-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://i.ibb.co/jLBHSfw/4278848-B-D336-4-FD4-9-EA4-2260-CDD43-D61.png
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You posted the reason why your posts at the forum were removed and now you are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> asking others why it was removed? It was removed for the reasons you posted.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Really?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Please cite
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No MID?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Arg! I copied the whole message. My client sometimes does stupid things.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>        Message-ID: <lin80kFb5gfU2@mid.individual.net>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sorry it did not come through the first time.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> OK
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That was the message sent from Apple with their standard routine bollox!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *I want to know what nerve my question touched*.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There was NOTHING "inappropriate" about my question. (Or do you think
>>>>>>>> there was?)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Someone notified Apple that that 'WhiterThanWhite' - who asked the
>>>>>>>> question on the ASC - was actually me.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There is no way to challenge an arbitrary decision made by those running
>>>>>>>> the ASC forums. Even Apple Support advises folk to simply reinvent
>>>>>>>> themselves under a new Apple ID and carry-on-regardless!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You quoted where they said you should not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I did indeed. I'm not hiding anything!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have also explained that BDAqua, a major player on the ASC forums,
>>>>>> TOLD me to reinvent myself under another Apple ID.|
>>>>>> Apple Support - by telephone - also told me the same thing.
>>>>>
>>>>> They were OK with it until you continued behavior they asked you to stop. OK.
>>>>
>>>> I really do wish you would pay proper attention.
>>>
>>> You have been repeatedly asked to stop posting things about other companies
>>> and about your fears of malware. You keep doing so and are now not welcome
>>> there.
>>
>> Who has told you that?
> 
> You!

No - I've reported what emails from 'moderators' have said!

I most certainly 'touched a nerve' - I must have got close to the truth.

>>>>>>>> Please give them a ring yourself and ask Apple Support about the ASC
>>>>>>>> forums and let us know what they say over there in the USA.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have no desire to be kicked from the forums for harassing them over how they
>>>>>>> handle people who do not respect their rules.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How is calling Apple Support on the 'phone going to hassle anyone on the
>>>>>> ASC forums?
>>>>>
>>>>> OK, no désire to harass Apple in any medium.
>>>>
>>>> I didn't ask you to harass Apple.
>>>
>>> You want me to contact them and ask about your battle with them. That would
>>> not be appropriate.
>>
>> That is not correct.
>>
>> I suggested that you 'phone Apple Support and ask if it is OK for you to
>> reinvent yourself under a new Apple ID in order to gain access to the
>> ASC forums.
> 
> If not for joining your battle with them they why? And you said they already
> said it was OK. Why ask when we have an answer? This is all so odd to me.

I simply wanted you to check - so that both you and others reading here 
would would have a second opinion.

>>>>>> They make up their own rules, Snit.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sure... it is their forum. Who else should make the rules?
>>>>>
>>>>> https://discussions.apple.com/terms
>>>>
>>>> Apple should make the rules - and Apple should moderate the ASC forums.
>>>>
>>>> Apple do NOT moderate the ASC forums.
>>>>
>>>> If you don't believe me, ask the question on the ASC forums!
>>>
>>> They oversee it, surely.
>>
>> I'm not sure that they do. How will you find out the truth of this matter?
> 
> I am not really concerned about the forums there.

Indeed. I got that impression.

What about THIS place? 
https://x704.net/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=9373&p=124552#p124552

You'll note that it's run by 'BDAqua' - a top honcho on the ASC forums!

There's more on-line than Usenet! 😉

-- 
David

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