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On 2016-10-11, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote: > On 2016-10-11 18:18:54 +0000, Jolly Roger said: > >> You tell me whether we can move on. The question of which logs were >> created around the time of the event still stands. > > I suppose we can move on from the topic of exactly how stupid I am or > am not, and exactly when I bought my first Mac. I apologize for venting my frustration with you. : ) > Regarding finding logs that will tell me what I need to know, I haven't > found them yet. I now understand that the console is a mechanism for > providing, all in a single location, references to documents that are > actually located in the bowels of the Finder in individual files. If > there are files in one of the many program directories within > ~/Library/Logs *in console* that relate to system hangs, I can't > identify them since there is no sort by date *in console* but more > problematically, they are sorted by program and lots of these programs > I know nothing about. Console isn't the most useful app, but it does have its uses. > Nevertheless, selecting any such folder at random and Revealing in > Finder, ascending to the Logs folder within either the base Library or > the user Library, I have now done searches within these locales for > ".hang" and have found only two old files: one each for Safari and > FileChute. > > For finding files from the time of the crash, I don't know a way to > isolate the folders and sub-folders through which I must sort by date, > for example, inside Library/Logs: > > CrashReporter > DiagnosticReports > iStat Menus > iStatMenusDaemon.log > LittleSnitchDaemon.log > LKDC-setup.log > Qmaster > TechToolProDaemon.log > Xsan Open either one of the Logs folders in a Finder window. Type Command-F. Set the search criteria to "Created date" is "within last" "1" hours (or whatever limit you want. > While on line with Apple yesterday that had me run a Capture Data pass > which I then forwarded to them. This seems to have plenty of residue, > or at least shifted time-stamps, which seem to throw my timings off by > two hours. > > In the future, once crashed, and rebooted, the first thing for me to > do, then, would be to enter these two directories *in the finder*: > /Library/Logs and ~/Library/Logs. Once there, I should open a folder > to begin looking for some residue at the time of crash. Which would > these be? Make note of the time of the hang and any logs that were created near that time (just before, during, just after) are potentially relevant. Also, any messages in the /var/log/system.log file with timestamps near the time of the hang would be useful to know. Post the logs here for help deciphering them. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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