Re: Major Crashing!

From	"Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.system
Subject	Re: Major Crashing!
Date	2016-10-12 12:13 -0500
Organization	On The Road
Message-ID	<ntlr08$192b$1@gioia.aioe.org> (permalink)
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On 10-12-2016 01:24, gtr wrote:
> On 2016-10-12 05:27:15 +0000, Happy.Hobo said:
>
>> On 10-11-2016 17:49, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>> Happy.Hobo <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> wrote:
>>>> On 10-11-2016 13:18, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>>>> You tell me whether we can move on. The question of which logs were
>>>>> created around the time of the event still stands.
>>>>
>>>> Aren't most logs added to frequently when computer is running, and
>>>> especially during boot?
>>>
>>> The hang happens while the computer is running.
>>
>> But if it's hung, the only way to look at logs is kill power and
>> reboot, thus writing to at least some of the logs.  system.log gets
>> hundreds of lines during boot.
>
> I can easily get the time *before* I boot, since I'm doing the booting
> and the screen continues to update while it hangs/freezes/locks/crashes.

Yes, you can.  But if the answer is in some_xyz.log, and reboot write to 
that log, then Finder is not going to tell you _that_ log also was 
written to before your reboot.  If that log doesn't have internal 
timestamps, you need to get a clue which log to look in from a log that 
does have timestamps.

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  Re: Major Crashing! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-09 22:57 +0000
  Re: Major Crashing! Michael Vilain <mev94303y@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-09 16:43 -0700
    Re: Major Crashing! gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-09 16:50 -0700
      Re: Major Crashing! befr@eaglesoft.de (Bernd Fröhlich) - 2016-10-10 09:11 +0200
    Re: Major Crashing! gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-09 16:56 -0700
      Re: Major Crashing! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-10 00:20 +0000
        Re: Major Crashing! gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-10 17:42 -0700
          Re: Major Crashing! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-11 00:48 +0000
            Re: Major Crashing! gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-10 22:22 -0700
              Re: Major Crashing! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-11 05:36 +0000
                Re: Major Crashing! befr@eaglesoft.de (Bernd Fröhlich) - 2016-10-11 08:26 +0200
                Re: Major Crashing! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-11 15:54 +0000
                Re: Major Crashing! gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-11 07:57 -0700
                Re: Major Crashing! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-11 15:54 +0000
                Re: Major Crashing! gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-11 09:41 -0700
                Re: Major Crashing! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-11 16:51 +0000
                Re: Major Crashing! gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-11 11:14 -0700
                Re: Major Crashing! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-11 18:18 +0000
                Re: Major Crashing! gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-11 12:27 -0700
                Re: Major Crashing! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-11 19:39 +0000
                Re: Major Crashing! gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-11 14:38 -0700
                Re: Major Crashing! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-11 22:11 +0000
                Re: Major Crashing! "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-11 17:37 -0500
                Re: Major Crashing! "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-11 17:35 -0500
                Re: Major Crashing! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-11 22:49 +0000
                Re: Major Crashing! "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-12 00:27 -0500
                Re: Major Crashing! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-12 05:50 +0000
                Re: Major Crashing! "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-12 12:10 -0500
                Re: Major Crashing! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-12 17:19 +0000
                Re: Major Crashing! "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-12 13:36 -0500
                Re: Major Crashing! gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-11 23:24 -0700
                Re: Major Crashing! "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-12 12:13 -0500
                Re: Major Crashing! gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-12 11:12 -0700
                Re: Major Crashing! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-13 00:11 +0000
                Re: Major Crashing! gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-12 19:16 -0700
                Re: Major Crashing! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-13 15:44 +0000
                Re: Major Crashing! gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-13 13:33 -0700
      Re: Major Crashing! Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-10-09 20:46 -0700
        Re: Major Crashing! gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-10 17:45 -0700
          Re: Major Crashing! gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-10 17:53 -0700
  Re: Major Crashing! gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-12 11:35 -0700
    Re: Major Crashing! gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-12 12:07 -0700
    Re: Major Crashing! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-13 00:14 +0000
      Re: Major Crashing! gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-12 19:17 -0700
        Re: Major Crashing! gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-13 08:44 -0700
        Re: Major Crashing! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-13 15:45 +0000
          Re: Major Crashing! gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-13 13:37 -0700
            Re: Major Crashing! gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-13 17:00 -0700
              Re: Major Crashing! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-14 00:33 +0000
    Re: Major Crashing! "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-12 20:29 -0500
      Re: Major Crashing! gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-12 19:17 -0700
        Re: Major Crashing! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-13 06:47 +0000
        Re: Major Crashing! gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-13 08:33 -0700
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