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Re: Minimum necessary tools for working on your Macs

From Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.system
Subject Re: Minimum necessary tools for working on your Macs
Date 2015-10-20 16:10 +0000
Organization People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates
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On 2015-10-20, Jamie Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> No thanks. It's written in Java which opens you up to even more security
>> vulnerabilities, and is buggy as hell in my experience. Almost any other
>> backup tool is better IMO.
>
> I find Crashplan works well, though Java is a memory hog and I wish
> they'd abandon it in favour of making native apps.

Last I used it (2014) it required the previous version of Java 6, even
though version 7 was current and much more secure. Strike one.

> The most annoying issue I've encountered more than once is it has paused
> restores to finish a backup in progress, which is just silly.
>
> I also had one incident where a power failure during a backup caused
> corruption to a small part of the backup archive, but Crashplan spit the
> dummy and declared the entire archive beyond redemption. No real harm
> done, just a lot of wasted bandwidth backing up an entire remote
> computer again. The tech I dealt with assured me they were aware of this
> rare possibility and working on avoiding it in the future.

I don't recall the specifics, but suffice it to say I found it to be
both clunky and cumbersome. To add insult to injury, after I uninstalled
it, CrashPlan's servers continued to send me silly backup reports until
support got involved.

> To be fair, in the nearly eight years I've used Crashplan, the minor
> issues I've encountered and the one more serious letdown are far fewer
> issues than I've ever had with any other backup system. At least
> Crashplan never flat out refused to restore a file - I had Time Machine
> do that several times, and have had trust issues with it ever since.
>
> Everything else aside, 99.9% of the time Crashplan has 'just worked' for
> me, and it has always, without fail (I thought not once, but it was just
> Crashplan deciding it wanted to finish a backup before restoring, as
> previously noted), successfully restored files.

My experience with Time Machine is that it's reliable and is not a
clunky, insecure Java app. It's been very reliable, and on the two
occasions in several years where the restore user interface gave me
trouble, I was always able to restore by opening the Time Machine disk
and dragging what I needed from it. Likewise, SuperDuper and CCC are
both excellent manual or even automated clone utilities that have rarely
cause issues for me.

> Oh - which reminds me - the other minor issue I have with Crashplan - it
> will not restore files with their original modification dates intact.
> IMO a perfect backup ought to give me my files back precisely as they
> were when backed up. But again, to be fair, that hasn't really been more
> than a minor irritant. Plus many other backup systems also fail at this
> *sigh*

Time Machine doesn't seem to fail in this regard for me. Same for
SuperDuper.

> What issues have you had, JR? *curious* Something serious and repeated,
> I imagine, for you to distrust it. I'd be interested to know, give my
> current dependence on Crashplan.

I'm just not a big fan of the way CrashPlan works.

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JR

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  Re: Minimum necessary tools for working on your Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-19 14:24 -0400
  Re: Minimum necessary tools for working on your Macs Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-19 21:15 +0000
    Re: Minimum necessary tools for working on your Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-10-20 11:24 +0000
      Re: Minimum necessary tools for working on your Macs Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-10-20 10:46 -0400
      Re: Minimum necessary tools for working on your Macs Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-20 14:59 +0000
        Re: Minimum necessary tools for working on your Macs jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-10-21 04:40 +1300
          Re: Minimum necessary tools for working on your Macs Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-20 16:10 +0000
        Re: Minimum necessary tools for working on your Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-10-21 00:37 +0000
  Re: Minimum necessary tools for working on your Macs Jack Shown <jackshown@gmail.com> - 2015-10-19 17:39 -0700
    Re: Minimum necessary tools for working on your Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-19 20:40 -0400
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    Re: Minimum necessary tools for working on your Macs Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2015-10-19 22:49 -0400
    Re: Minimum necessary tools for working on your Macs Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-10-20 18:27 +1300
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