Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]

Groups > comp.sys.mac.system > #105011

Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution

Cross-posted to 4 groups.

Show all headers | View raw

In article <op.yy3x1tpojs98qf@red.lan>, James Wilkinson Sword
<imvalid@somewear.com> wrote:

> >>
> >> I always use the cheapest ink and don't get clogging.
> >
> > luck.
> 
> Nope.  Ink is ink.  The quality is all in the print heads.

very wrong.


> >
> > hp printers rarely clog, but in the unlikely event one does, it doesn't
> > matter because both the print head and ink are replaced. any clog is
> > tossed along with the old ink.
> 
> In my experience, HP printers are absolutely terrible, constantly producing
> stripy images and needing cleaned several times.  And their drivers are
> buggy.  I've actually seen a computer hang completely because an HP driver
> was looking for a printer which was not currently connected to the network.

your experience does not match reality.


> > that's actually a big *advantage* of hp printers.
> 
> It isn't, because the quality of the head on a throwaway cartridge will be
> much much lower than one that comes with the printer and is designed to last
> the life of it.

only how long it lasts is different, not the output quality.


> >
> > with ink jet printers where only the ink is replaced, a head clog means
> > running ink-wasting
> 
> If you buy cheap ink, it isn't that much of a waste.

it does when it means replacing the printer.


> > clean cycles hoping that it works without burning
> > out the heads in the process. if the heads end up fried, the printer
> > will need to be replaced. at best, it's a lot of wasted ink, paper and
> > time.
> 
> I find print heads last for ages.  They don't wear out any more often than
> other parts in the printer, like the paper feed mechanism, the head movement,
> etc.

luck

> > aftermarket inks won't have the same colour gamut
> 
> What's with the word "gamut"?  It's sounds foreign.  What's wrong with
> "range"?  "Gamut" and "onus" really annoy me.  Gamut doesn't sound English
> and onus sounds like anus.

gamut is the correct word.

> > as original inks and
> > won't be consistent batch to batch (especially if you buy whatever is
> > on sale that week).
> 
> So you stick to one source.

not possible. 

if you buy ink on different times, you will get different batches.
if you buy lots of ink from the same batch, it will degrade or even
expire by the time you use it.

> > the ink is lower quality (that's why it's cheaper)
> 
> It's cheaper because Epson/HP/whatever aren't ripping you off and funding
> their cut price printers with it.  Why do you think the printer companies get
> so upset about fake ink?  They make most of their profits on it.

it's because they can't guarantee the quality of crappy ink.

> > and will probably fade sooner. it might also dry out due to age sooner
> > than genuine inks, causing a clog. if aftermarket ink has pigment
> > particles larger than the print head nozzles, it *will* clog (basic
> > physics).
> 
> Never seen any of those happen.

that doesn't mean it won't happen.

Back to comp.sys.mac.system | Previous | Next — Previous in thread | Find similar

Thread

Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-22 18:40 +0100
  Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2017-04-22 14:10 -0500
    Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-22 20:23 +0100
  Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-22 13:22 -0700
    Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-22 21:34 +0100
      Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-22 15:23 -0700
    Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-22 18:33 -0400
      Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-22 15:46 -0700
  Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-22 18:33 -0400

csiph-web