Path: csiph.com!feeder.erje.net!1.eu.feeder.erje.net!news.albasani.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: "Rod Speed" Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.mobile.ipad Subject: Re: Just got an Apple TV - most disappointed :-\ Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2017 07:46:22 +1000 Lines: 61 Message-ID: References: <1n9hcmd.1sezz4n1t5s2wwN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> <1n9indv.pqza8vxw4gf7N%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> <1n9l5l4.vkxe3y1vdb519N%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> <1n9lpc0.hswt79uua17bN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: individual.net iufX1zse+Cban0ptQ9XYVwvWOzIuiJ/kdMCdH8G5i1Qxq4D1o= Cancel-Lock: sha1:oNdYHY0v4QsQjI3w8oWACG+kZ2Q= In-Reply-To: <1n9lpc0.hswt79uua17bN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8117.416 Xref: csiph.com misc.phone.mobile.iphone:101917 comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc:2019 comp.mobile.ipad:61882 "Jamie Kahn Genet" wrote in message news:1n9lpc0.hswt79uua17bN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz... > Rod Speed wrote: > >> "Jamie Kahn Genet" wrote in message >> news:1n9l5l4.vkxe3y1vdb519N%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz... >> > Jolly Roger wrote: >> > >> >> On 2017-07-21, Jamie Kahn Genet wrote: >> >> > RS Wood wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> Jamie Kahn Genet wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> > Oh, and did I mention I hate the remote? >> >> >> >> >> >> Can't you use iOS as the remote? >> >> > >> >> > Yes, and that at least solves orientation issues (I often pick up >> >> > the >> >> > physical remote and try to use the wrong half for touch input, no >> >> > matter >> >> > the slight different in texture), and it makes the touch surface >> >> > wider >> >> > which is nicer for games. But it largely just replicates the other >> >> > issues by strictly following the same physical design in software. >> >> >> >> Which issues are those? >> > >> > Swiping to navigate and make selections, etc. I'm much faster and more >> > accurate (I often over or undershoot with touch swipes) at navigating >> > to >> > the app and video I want on my Roku with it's button remote. I just >> > don't see the point of the touch control for anything but the games - >> >> I do, the controls can be much more context sensitive with touch >> control and there are plenty of non games where that is very useful. > > I can really only think of one instance from my first week with my Apple > TV 4 - fast scrolling without delay (like having to hold down a button > for a while till scrolling speeds up) of many objects. That I can do > more efficiently with touch gestures. But it remains to be seen if someone comes up with better stuff like they did with the phones when the more capable touch control is there to be exploited. Its early days UI wise. >> > and even then I generally prefer physical controls for most game types. >> >> You're a dinosaur. > > I had no idea efficient physical controls meant I was stuck in the > past :-D Touch works well in certain situations, but far from all. I was commenting on your silly claim about physical controls. > I'm sorry that reality troubles you. You dinosaurs never trouble me.