Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported)

From	android <here@there.was>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.comm, uk.comp.sys.mac
Subject	Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported)
Date	2016-08-28 08:27 +0200
Message-ID	<e2fehmF5c5eU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
References	(9 earlier) <e28mh0Fgs93U6@mid.individual.net> <here-3990F4.19202125082016@news.individual.net> <e28oggFgs93U14@mid.individual.net> <here-0C34C4.19585425082016@news.individual.net> <npq0fc$m1$1@dont-email.me>

Cross-posted to 2 groups.

Show all headers | View raw

On 2016-08-26 20:06:37 +0200, Doc O'Leary said:

> For your reference, records indicate that
> android <here@there.was> wrote:
> 
>> That screen shoot is of Pan. I have never said that Pan is a Mac app.
> 
> No, you didn’t use those *exact* words.  You said it could be “adopted
> to the Mac” thusly:
> 
>> You could port or Pan or make a "Wine bottle" for the Windows version
>> of it
> 
> Where I come from, that’s not how we do adoption.  We frown on even
> orphans being locked in the basement and feeding them table scraps.
> 
>> Works better than Unison...
> 
> Says the person still using MT-Newswatcher.  I’m beginning to think
> you’re a troll that I need to add to my filter list.  Even if it was
> buggy or you hated it for some other reason, Unison was developed as
> a Mac app.

I'm not a hater but MT-NW and Thunderbird works better. MT-NW lets you 
save threads under there own names, for example. That function does not 
work on Unison, I can only save article by article...
> 
>>>> I am a Mac user
>>> 
>>> Barely. Clearly.
>> 
>> How is that clear?
> 
> Here is a screenshot of your message in Signal:
> 
> http://droleary.subsume.com/Signal.png
> 
> Here it is in Thunderbird:
> 
> http://droleary.subsume.com/Thunderbird.png
> 
> If you can’t spot the differences, you *clearly* are as much a Mac
> users as you are a Windows user and a Linux user (and any other
> platform they ported to).

Sure I can see that the UIs are different. To be frank and hones:  I 
can't, even if it would save my life understand why you don't put 
signal on the market!

>  Let me list off the obvious problems:
> 
> * The subject list doesn’t use the standard outline view, so you
> don’t get disclosure controls for subthreads, or the standard
> associated behaviors (e.g., option-click to show/hide all).
> * Neither does the subject list appear to be using the system fonts.
> * The tab bar at the top is nothing like standard Mac tabs.
> * The toolbar in both windows is likewise not what Mac apps use.
> * There’s something wonky about the font of their popup menu, too.
> * None of the items in that menu are Mac services.  No dictionary
> lookup or speech, and even the web search is not my selected provider
> but rather Bing, because Microsoft pays Mozilla to degrade your Mac
> experience.
> 
> Many other controls in the app give a similar “uncanny valley”
> experience. The more you use Thunderbird, the more the “Mac app”
> illusion breaks down.
> 
>> No. O'Leary said: "...Thunderbird or Pan if there is no other choice.
>> But every Mac user can tell right away that they’re not Mac apps."
>> 
>> I am a Mac user and I think that Thunderbird is a Mac app. O'Leary is
>> wrong.
> 
> Indeed my *literal* statement was wrong, and it is now clear you
> are a very sadly literal person.  What qualifier would you like to
> replace “every”?  How about “experienced” or “perceptive”, or maybe
> just “intellectually honest”?

We can agree upon the fact that you was wrong...
-- 
teleportation kills

Back to comp.sys.mac.comm | Previous | Next — Previous in thread | Next in thread | Find similar

Thread

[ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) stk.usenet@haller-berlin.de (Stefan Haller) - 2016-08-21 17:51 +0200
  Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-21 15:58 +0000
    Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) android <here@there.was> - 2016-08-21 16:47 +0000
      Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-21 16:58 +0000
        Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2016-08-22 05:03 +1200
          Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-21 17:25 +0000
        Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-21 17:06 +0000
      Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) David Kennedy <davidkennedy@nospamherethankyou.invalid> - 2016-08-21 21:10 +0100
      Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-08-23 02:01 +0000
        Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) android <here@there.was> - 2016-08-23 02:25 +0000
          Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Ian McCall <ian@eruvia.org> - 2016-08-23 08:39 +0100
            Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) android <here@there.was> - 2016-08-23 09:05 +0000
              Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2016-08-23 13:06 +0200
              Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Ian McCall <ian@eruvia.org> - 2016-08-23 16:00 +0100
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2016-08-23 10:35 -0600
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Ian McCall <ian@eruvia.org> - 2016-08-23 17:39 +0100
          Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) news{@bestley.co.uk (Mark Bestley) - 2016-08-23 10:59 +0100
            Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) android <here@there.was> - 2016-08-23 12:22 +0000
            Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) David Kennedy <davidkennedy@nospamherethankyou.invalid> - 2016-08-25 01:54 +0100
              Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) android <here@there.was> - 2016-08-25 05:33 +0200
          Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-08-24 15:47 +0000
            Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) android <here@there.was> - 2016-08-24 18:04 +0200
              Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) news{@bestley.co.uk (Mark Bestley) - 2016-08-24 17:37 +0100
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) android <here@there.was> - 2016-08-24 19:32 +0200
              Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-08-25 15:56 +0000
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) android <here@there.was> - 2016-08-25 18:39 +0200
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-25 17:00 +0000
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) android <here@there.was> - 2016-08-25 19:20 +0200
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-25 17:34 +0000
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) android <here@there.was> - 2016-08-25 19:58 +0200
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-25 18:04 +0000
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) android <here@there.was> - 2016-08-25 20:15 +0200
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) news{@bestley.co.uk (Mark Bestley) - 2016-08-25 21:43 +0100
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-25 21:16 +0000
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) android <here@there.was> - 2016-08-26 04:14 +0200
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-26 03:14 +0000
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) android <here@there.was> - 2016-08-26 05:21 +0200
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-26 04:36 +0000
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) android <here@there.was> - 2016-08-26 06:50 +0200
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-26 05:38 +0000
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) android <here@there.was> - 2016-08-26 07:46 +0200
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2016-08-26 20:13 +1200
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) android <here@there.was> - 2016-08-26 10:20 +0200
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2016-08-26 20:48 +1200
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) android <here@there.was> - 2016-08-26 11:14 +0200
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2016-08-27 02:08 +1200
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-08-26 18:06 +0000
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) android <here@there.was> - 2016-08-28 08:27 +0200
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-08-28 17:37 +0000
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) android <here@there.was> - 2016-08-28 19:45 +0200
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Chris Ridd <chrisridd@mac.com> - 2016-08-28 19:12 +0100
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-08-29 17:39 +0000
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) black.hole@jonbradbury.com (Jon B) - 2016-08-29 18:50 +0100
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2016-08-30 05:26 -0400
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2016-08-30 22:10 +1200
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) android <here@there.was> - 2016-08-30 13:22 +0200
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2016-08-28 20:04 +0200
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) android <here@there.was> - 2016-08-28 20:14 +0200
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2016-08-29 12:49 +0200
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Julian Gomez <jeg@polished-pixels.com> - 2016-09-01 23:44 -0700
    Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) stk.usenet@haller-berlin.de (Stefan Haller) - 2016-08-22 18:41 +0200
      Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-22 17:11 +0000
  Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2016-08-22 04:40 +1200
    Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) js@xs4all.nl (Jeroen Scheerder) - 2016-08-21 19:14 +0200
      Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2016-08-22 13:08 +1200
      Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2016-08-23 13:06 +0200
    Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) totallydeadmailbox@yahoo.co.uk (The Older Gentleman) - 2016-08-21 21:54 +0100
      Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2016-08-22 09:21 +1200
    Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Jean-Pierre Kuypers <Kuypers@address.invalid> - 2016-08-22 21:18 +0200
      Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2016-08-23 12:24 +1200
  Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) "James C. Andrew" <jim@magrathea.plus.com> - 2016-08-22 09:14 +0100
  Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) nemo@erewhon.invalid (John Hill) - 2016-08-22 09:17 +0100
    Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) news{@bestley.co.uk (Mark Bestley) - 2016-08-23 11:40 +0100
  Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) macker@nospam.invalid (Macker) - 2016-08-22 11:44 -0300
  Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) g.harper@gmx.line (Gwynne Harper) - 2016-08-22 19:44 +0300
  Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) andekl_no@saaf_spam.se (Anders Eklöf) - 2016-08-22 23:49 +0200
    Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) stk.usenet@haller-berlin.de (Stefan Haller) - 2016-08-23 12:04 +0200
  Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2016-08-23 13:15 +0200
    Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) info@that.sundog.co.uk (SM) - 2016-08-23 12:37 +0100
    Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) stk.usenet@haller-berlin.de (Stefan Haller) - 2016-08-23 14:19 +0200
      Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2016-08-23 23:02 +0200
        Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2016-08-23 17:06 -0600
          Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2016-08-24 10:46 +0200
            Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2016-08-24 21:13 +1200
              Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Graham J <graham@invalid.com> - 2016-08-24 10:49 +0100
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2016-08-24 22:08 +1200
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) HarpingOn <postmaster@127.0.0.1> - 2016-08-25 20:05 +0100
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) jeremy <jeremy0505@gmail.com> - 2016-08-26 16:29 +0100
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2016-08-27 07:32 +1200
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-26 19:58 +0000
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) henry999@eircom.net (Henry) - 2016-08-27 20:25 +0300
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2016-08-28 07:22 +1200
              Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2016-08-24 13:05 +0200
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2016-08-25 00:49 +1200
            Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Jean-Pierre Kuypers <Kuypers@address.invalid> - 2016-08-24 11:40 +0200
            Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2016-08-24 19:18 -0600
  [ANN] French MacSOUP Jean-Pierre Kuypers <Kuypers@address.invalid> - 2016-08-29 18:41 +0200

csiph-web