Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: android Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,uk.comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2016 08:27:02 +0200 Lines: 82 Message-ID: References: <1mscdiw.120k8zk19vdv7uN%stk.usenet@haller-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=macintosh; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net eN3qe26WZXqdEiHQDE21xgLpxIPmdRHzQrdWkRjXAKbg3LOPX5 Cancel-Lock: sha1:fu7c59CjkoI8SjX7v6/gm1c3Na8= User-Agent: Unison/2.2 Xref: csiph.com comp.sys.mac.comm:3056 uk.comp.sys.mac:112789 On 2016-08-26 20:06:37 +0200, Doc O'Leary said: > For your reference, records indicate that > android wrote: > >> That screen shoot is of Pan. I have never said that Pan is a Mac app. > > No, you didnÕt use those *exact* words. You said it could be Òadopted > to the MacÓ thusly: > >> You could port or Pan or make a "Wine bottle" for the Windows version >> of it > > Where I come from, thatÕs not how we do adoption. We frown on even > orphans being locked in the basement and feeding them table scraps. > >> Works better than Unison... > > Says the person still using MT-Newswatcher. IÕm beginning to think > youÕre a troll that I need to add to my filter list. Even if it was > buggy or you hated it for some other reason, Unison was developed as > a Mac app. I'm not a hater but MT-NW and Thunderbird works better. MT-NW lets you save threads under there own names, for example. That function does not work on Unison, I can only save article by article... > >>>> I am a Mac user >>> >>> Barely. Clearly. >> >> How is that clear? > > Here is a screenshot of your message in Signal: > > http://droleary.subsume.com/Signal.png > > Here it is in Thunderbird: > > http://droleary.subsume.com/Thunderbird.png > > If you canÕt spot the differences, you *clearly* are as much a Mac > users as you are a Windows user and a Linux user (and any other > platform they ported to). Sure I can see that the UIs are different. To be frank and hones: I can't, even if it would save my life understand why you don't put signal on the market! > Let me list off the obvious problems: > > * The subject list doesnÕt use the standard outline view, so you > donÕt get disclosure controls for subthreads, or the standard > associated behaviors (e.g., option-click to show/hide all). > * Neither does the subject list appear to be using the system fonts. > * The tab bar at the top is nothing like standard Mac tabs. > * The toolbar in both windows is likewise not what Mac apps use. > * ThereÕs something wonky about the font of their popup menu, too. > * None of the items in that menu are Mac services. No dictionary > lookup or speech, and even the web search is not my selected provider > but rather Bing, because Microsoft pays Mozilla to degrade your Mac > experience. > > Many other controls in the app give a similar Òuncanny valleyÓ > experience. The more you use Thunderbird, the more the ÒMac appÓ > illusion breaks down. > >> No. O'Leary said: "...Thunderbird or Pan if there is no other choice. >> But every Mac user can tell right away that theyÕre not Mac apps." >> >> I am a Mac user and I think that Thunderbird is a Mac app. O'Leary is >> wrong. > > Indeed my *literal* statement was wrong, and it is now clear you > are a very sadly literal person. What qualifier would you like to > replace ÒeveryÓ? How about ÒexperiencedÓ or ÒperceptiveÓ, or maybe > just Òintellectually honestÓ? We can agree upon the fact that you was wrong... -- teleportation kills