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  Safe to remove Xcode? Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 11:18 -0500
    Re: Safe to remove Xcode? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-03-22 12:27 -0400
      Re: Safe to remove Xcode? Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 11:29 -0500
      Re: Safe to remove Xcode? Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 17:47 +0000
        Re: Safe to remove Xcode? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-03-22 14:25 -0400
          Re: Safe to remove Xcode? Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 18:28 +0000
        Re: Safe to remove Xcode? android <here@there.was> - 2016-03-24 07:47 +0100
          Re: Safe to remove Xcode? Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2016-03-26 17:08 -0500
    Re: Safe to remove Xcode? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-03-22 12:30 -0400
      Re: Safe to remove Xcode? Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 11:44 -0500
    Re: Safe to remove Xcode? "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-03-23 14:06 -0500
      Re: Safe to remove Xcode? "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-03-23 17:28 -0500
        Re: Safe to remove Xcode? Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 18:11 -0500
          Re: Safe to remove Xcode? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-03-23 19:13 -0400

#34883 — Safe to remove Xcode?

OK, got pan up and running.  So can I just delete the Xcode package and 
still have pan working?

If so, is it just a drag 'n drop in the trash deletion?

Reason I ask is that this latest round of updates also included Xcode 
update.  And that is taking forever.  I don't need Xcode because I have 
no need to make another app.  To give you an idea of how long it is 
taking to update, it has been saying '4 minutes left' for the last 30 
minutes but the indicator has moved a miniscule amount so I know it is 
still working.


-- 
Lloyd
from the Macbook 12"

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#34884

On 2016-03-22 12:18, Lloyd Parsons wrote:
> OK, got pan up and running.  So can I just delete the Xcode package and
> still have pan working?
>
> If so, is it just a drag 'n drop in the trash deletion?

Yes, but (see below)

> Reason I ask is that this latest round of updates also included Xcode
> update.  And that is taking forever.  I don't need Xcode because I have
> no need to make another app.  To give you an idea of how long it is
> taking to update, it has been saying '4 minutes left' for the last 30
> minutes but the indicator has moved a miniscule amount so I know it is
> still working.


I just removed (20 minutes ago) XCode (using AppCleaner) rather than do 
the XCode update that comes with 10.11.4.  I did download the command 
line tools.

Updated the system (App Store) and re-started.  10.11.4 seems fine and 
my compilers still work ...

-- 
"But I am somehow extraordinarily lucky, for a guy with shitty luck."
               ..Harrison Ford, Rolling Stone - 2015-12-02

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#34885

On 2016-03-22 16:27:26 +0000, Alan Browne said:

> On 2016-03-22 12:18, Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>> OK, got pan up and running.  So can I just delete the Xcode package and
>> still have pan working?
>> 
>> If so, is it just a drag 'n drop in the trash deletion?
> 
> Yes, but (see below)

Thanks.

> 
>> Reason I ask is that this latest round of updates also included Xcode
>> update.  And that is taking forever.  I don't need Xcode because I have
>> no need to make another app.  To give you an idea of how long it is
>> taking to update, it has been saying '4 minutes left' for the last 30
>> minutes but the indicator has moved a miniscule amount so I know it is
>> still working.
> 
> 
> I just removed (20 minutes ago) XCode (using AppCleaner) rather than do 
> the XCode update that comes with 10.11.4.  I did download the command 
> line tools.

I'm at "less than a minute" now.  Given past records of the fiction of 
those timers, I figure it will be at least 10 more minutes...  :)

AHA!!  It finally is finished.
> 
> Updated the system (App Store) and re-started.  10.11.4 seems fine and 
> my compilers still work ...

I'll be doing the same after I send this.

-- 
Lloyd
from the Macbook 12"

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#34892

On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 12:27:26 -0400, Alan Browne wrote:

> On 2016-03-22 12:18, Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>> OK, got pan up and running.  So can I just delete the Xcode package and
>> still have pan working?
>>
>> If so, is it just a drag 'n drop in the trash deletion?
> 
> Yes, but (see below)
> 
>> Reason I ask is that this latest round of updates also included Xcode
>> update.  And that is taking forever.  I don't need Xcode because I have
>> no need to make another app.  To give you an idea of how long it is
>> taking to update, it has been saying '4 minutes left' for the last 30
>> minutes but the indicator has moved a miniscule amount so I know it is
>> still working.
> 
> 
> I just removed (20 minutes ago) XCode (using AppCleaner) rather than do
> the XCode update that comes with 10.11.4.  I did download the command
> line tools.
> 
> Updated the system (App Store) and re-started.  10.11.4 seems fine and
> my compilers still work ...

I got rid of Xcode except for the command line tools.  But oddly the 
update to them just won't install on my machine.  Tried a few reboots, 
app store install, starts to install and then quits to showing update 
again.

For now I'm not concerned because I doubt I'll ever use them again.

My pan is working fine which was all that I actually wanted.



-- 
Lloyd

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#34893

On 2016-03-22 13:47, Lloyd Parsons wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 12:27:26 -0400, Alan Browne wrote:
>
>> On 2016-03-22 12:18, Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>>> OK, got pan up and running.  So can I just delete the Xcode package and
>>> still have pan working?
>>>
>>> If so, is it just a drag 'n drop in the trash deletion?
>>
>> Yes, but (see below)
>>
>>> Reason I ask is that this latest round of updates also included Xcode
>>> update.  And that is taking forever.  I don't need Xcode because I have
>>> no need to make another app.  To give you an idea of how long it is
>>> taking to update, it has been saying '4 minutes left' for the last 30
>>> minutes but the indicator has moved a miniscule amount so I know it is
>>> still working.
>>
>>
>> I just removed (20 minutes ago) XCode (using AppCleaner) rather than do
>> the XCode update that comes with 10.11.4.  I did download the command
>> line tools.
>>
>> Updated the system (App Store) and re-started.  10.11.4 seems fine and
>> my compilers still work ...
>
> I got rid of Xcode except for the command line tools.  But oddly the
> update to them just won't install on my machine.  Tried a few reboots,
> app store install, starts to install and then quits to showing update
> again.

You may need to install and authorize CL tools from an admin account, 
though I had no such issues.  Note that I removed XCode before updating 
to 10.11.4; and I updated the CL tools at the same time as the OS update.

>
> For now I'm not concerned because I doubt I'll ever use them again.
>
> My pan is working fine which was all that I actually wanted.


-- 
"But I am somehow extraordinarily lucky, for a guy with shitty luck."
               ..Harrison Ford, Rolling Stone - 2015-12-02

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#34894

On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 14:25:21 -0400, Alan Browne wrote:

> On 2016-03-22 13:47, Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>> On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 12:27:26 -0400, Alan Browne wrote:
>>
>>> On 2016-03-22 12:18, Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>>>> OK, got pan up and running.  So can I just delete the Xcode package
>>>> and still have pan working?
>>>>
>>>> If so, is it just a drag 'n drop in the trash deletion?
>>>
>>> Yes, but (see below)
>>>
>>>> Reason I ask is that this latest round of updates also included Xcode
>>>> update.  And that is taking forever.  I don't need Xcode because I
>>>> have no need to make another app.  To give you an idea of how long it
>>>> is taking to update, it has been saying '4 minutes left' for the last
>>>> 30 minutes but the indicator has moved a miniscule amount so I know
>>>> it is still working.
>>>
>>>
>>> I just removed (20 minutes ago) XCode (using AppCleaner) rather than
>>> do the XCode update that comes with 10.11.4.  I did download the
>>> command line tools.
>>>
>>> Updated the system (App Store) and re-started.  10.11.4 seems fine and
>>> my compilers still work ...
>>
>> I got rid of Xcode except for the command line tools.  But oddly the
>> update to them just won't install on my machine.  Tried a few reboots,
>> app store install, starts to install and then quits to showing update
>> again.
> 
> You may need to install and authorize CL tools from an admin account,
> though I had no such issues.  Note that I removed XCode before updating
> to 10.11.4; and I updated the CL tools at the same time as the OS
> update.
> 
I got what I needed, pan, and have no other needs from the open source 
world so I doubt the issue will ever come up again.

And if I feel the urge to play Linux I can just crank up the Chromebook 
Pixel and run it there.  :)




-- 
Lloyd

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#34907

In article <dldeokF4qr3U1@mid.individual.net>,
 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> wrote:

> My pan is working fine which was all that I actually wanted.

I'm sooo relived to read that!
-- 
teleportation kills

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#34932

On 2016-03-24 06:47:02 +0000, android said:

> In article <dldeokF4qr3U1@mid.individual.net>,
>  Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> My pan is working fine which was all that I actually wanted.
> 
> I'm sooo relived to read that!

And I'm happy that I could offer you that relief...  :)

-- 
Lloyd
from the Macbook 12"

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#34886

In article <dld9inF3giiU1@mid.individual.net>, Lloyd Parsons
<lloydp211@gmail.com> wrote:

> OK, got pan up and running.  So can I just delete the Xcode package and 
> still have pan working?
> 
> If so, is it just a drag 'n drop in the trash deletion?

yes. 

> Reason I ask is that this latest round of updates also included Xcode 
> update.  And that is taking forever.  I don't need Xcode because I have 
> no need to make another app.  To give you an idea of how long it is 
> taking to update, it has been saying '4 minutes left' for the last 30 
> minutes but the indicator has moved a miniscule amount so I know it is 
> still working.

it's best to install xcode via the developer site rather than the app
store so you don't have 5 gig updates all the time.

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#34888

On 2016-03-22 16:30:27 +0000, nospam said:

> In article <dld9inF3giiU1@mid.individual.net>, Lloyd Parsons
> <lloydp211@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> OK, got pan up and running.  So can I just delete the Xcode package and
>> still have pan working?
>> 
>> If so, is it just a drag 'n drop in the trash deletion?
> 
> yes.
> 
>> Reason I ask is that this latest round of updates also included Xcode
>> update.  And that is taking forever.  I don't need Xcode because I have
>> no need to make another app.  To give you an idea of how long it is
>> taking to update, it has been saying '4 minutes left' for the last 30
>> minutes but the indicator has moved a miniscule amount so I know it is
>> still working.
> 
> it's best to install xcode via the developer site rather than the app
> store so you don't have 5 gig updates all the time.

Thanks. I'll keep that in mind if I ever decide I need it again.  I 
don't think I will, but you just never know.
-- 
Lloyd
from the Macbook 12"

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#34900

On 03-22-2016 11:18, Lloyd Parsons wrote:
> latest round of updates also included Xcode update.  And that is taking
> forever

Mine's about 25% done and predicts an hour to go.  But since I'll be 
doing other things for longer than that, I tolerate it.

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#34901

On 03-23-2016 14:06, Happy.Hobo wrote:
> On 03-22-2016 11:18, Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>> latest round of updates also included Xcode update.  And that is taking
>> forever
>
> Mine's about 25% done and predicts an hour to go.  But since I'll be
> doing other things for longer than that, I tolerate it.

And now (three-plus hours later), I'm ready to shut down, but it says 
it's about half done and has four hours to go.  :-)

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#34902

On 2016-03-23 22:28:04 +0000, Happy.Hobo said:

> On 03-23-2016 14:06, Happy.Hobo wrote:
>> On 03-22-2016 11:18, Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>>> latest round of updates also included Xcode update.  And that is taking
>>> forever
>> 
>> Mine's about 25% done and predicts an hour to go.  But since I'll be
>> doing other things for longer than that, I tolerate it.
> 
> And now (three-plus hours later), I'm ready to shut down, but it says 
> it's about half done and has four hours to go.  :-)

fun, huh?  :)
-- 
Lloyd
from the Macbook 12"

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#34903

On 2016-03-23 19:11, Lloyd Parsons wrote:
> On 2016-03-23 22:28:04 +0000, Happy.Hobo said:
>
>> On 03-23-2016 14:06, Happy.Hobo wrote:
>>> On 03-22-2016 11:18, Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>>>> latest round of updates also included Xcode update.  And that is taking
>>>> forever
>>>
>>> Mine's about 25% done and predicts an hour to go.  But since I'll be
>>> doing other things for longer than that, I tolerate it.
>>
>> And now (three-plus hours later), I'm ready to shut down, but it says
>> it's about half done and has four hours to go.  :-)
>
> fun, huh?  :)

I had no issues at all.  Removing X-code from this iMac took seconds, 
took a minute or 2 on my MBA at work.

Installing 10.11.4 and rebooting into that took about 8 minutes on the 
iMac and about 15 on the MBA at work.  Not sure for the other MBA here 
at home - did it via Screen Share and didn't really pay attention.  But 
certainly no more than 15 minutes or so.

-- 
"But I am somehow extraordinarily lucky, for a guy with shitty luck."
               ..Harrison Ford, Rolling Stone - 2015-12-02

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