Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol

From	Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Newsgroups	comp.mobile.android, misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject	Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol
Date	2023-12-11 16:28 +0000
Organization	People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates
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On 2023-12-11, Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> On 2023-12-10 18:14, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> On 2023-12-10, Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 2023-12-10 10:38, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>>> On 09.12.23 22:21, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>>>> On 2023-12-09 21:05, Wally J wrote:
>>>>>> "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not at all.  Apple's system is not a walled garden.  More like an
>>>>>>>> exclusive country club where you get more but can also go
>>>>>>>> anywhere off of the club you want.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The point is that *here* there are only 21% of iPhones, so those
>>>>>>> users have to get out of their walled garden to talk with the
>>>>>>> people, 80% of which are on Android. So, they don't use iMessages.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Carlos brings up the valid points that most of the world is on
>>>>>> Android, and most of the world seems to use WhatsApp (which is the
>>>>>> same as iMessage anyway, in terms of needing to connect to a
>>>>>> middleman mothership server).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But even those on Android in the US have no problem communicating
>>>>>> with iPhone users; it's always mainly the iPhone users who complain
>>>>>> about it.
>>>>>
>>>>> That is not so.
>>>>>
>>>>> Android users have to communicate with iPhone users using third
>>>>> party tools, like WhatsApp, thats not popular in the USA, or ancient
>>>>> protocols like SMS, which lack features. Or use MMS, which in many
>>>>> countries it is expensive, or is being phased out.
>>>>>
>>>>> So yes, we do have problems and we do complain.
>>>>
>>>> I think this is a fair statement. iPhone users do not complain.
>>>
>>> Yes, they do, when they want to communicate with Android users and can
>>> not send photos or multimedia
>> 
>> No, they can send photos and multimedia.
>
> Not in Europe, not probably in most of the world. Not using imessages.

People in those countries don't use iMessage in the first place. 

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Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> - 2023-12-09 16:05 -0400
  Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2023-12-09 22:21 +0100
    Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2023-12-09 17:04 -0500
      Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> - 2023-12-10 00:24 -0400
        Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2023-12-10 13:20 +0100
          Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> - 2023-12-10 14:09 -0400
      Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2023-12-10 10:38 +0100
        Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2023-12-10 08:26 -0500
          Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2023-12-13 13:16 +0100
            Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2023-12-13 08:58 -0500
              Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> - 2023-12-13 11:11 -0400
              Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol Dave Royal<dave@dave123royal.com> - 2023-12-13 15:26 +0000
                Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2023-12-13 14:17 -0500
                Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2023-12-14 08:12 +0100
              Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2023-12-14 08:08 +0100
                Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2023-12-15 20:47 +0100
                Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> - 2023-12-20 22:12 -0400
    Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> - 2023-12-10 00:22 -0400
    Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2023-12-10 10:38 +0100
      Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2023-12-10 13:22 +0100
        Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2023-12-10 08:29 -0500
          Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> - 2023-12-10 19:22 -0400
          Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2023-12-11 12:23 +0100
            Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2023-12-11 09:16 -0500
            Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> - 2023-12-11 10:18 -0400
        Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2023-12-10 17:14 +0000
          Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> - 2023-12-10 19:21 -0400
          Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2023-12-11 12:24 +0100
            Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2023-12-11 16:28 +0000
        Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol Bernd Froehlich <befr@eaglesoft.de> - 2023-12-11 08:19 +0000
          Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2023-12-11 12:28 +0100
            Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2023-12-11 16:29 +0000
          Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> - 2023-12-11 10:38 -0400
            Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol Dave Royal<dave@dave123royal.com> - 2023-12-11 16:08 +0000
              Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2023-12-11 19:25 +0100
                Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol Dave Royal<dave@dave123royal.com> - 2023-12-11 19:09 +0000
                Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2023-12-11 23:51 +0100
                Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol Dave Royal<dave@dave123royal.com> - 2023-12-12 08:27 +0000
                Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2023-12-12 10:13 +0100
              Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2023-12-11 13:29 -0500
                Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol Larry Wolff <larrywolff@larrywolff.net> - 2023-12-11 14:17 -0500
                Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol Bradley <bradley@nospam.com> - 2023-12-11 14:35 -0500
                Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2023-12-11 23:55 +0100
                Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2023-12-11 23:57 +0100
  Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2023-12-10 10:37 +0100
    Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2023-12-10 13:24 +0100
      Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> - 2023-12-10 19:46 -0400
      Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2023-12-12 10:17 +0100

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