Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Jolly Roger Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android,misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.apps Subject: Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol Date: 11 Dec 2023 16:28:58 GMT Organization: People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates Lines: 50 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net DMPohDIPr+3uRRT4zI/MZg/QuIRSJNOHU6KqfTVsNcQ/24BzV2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:bCvxl09cHyvrOMiRkRTkd2tAU2g= sha256:lpJJQ8EGLLJ0dxxYXJjJO54LYi2rS+TRT6fOSmWTGps= Mail-Copies-To: nobody X-Face: _.g>n!a$f3/H3jA]>9pN55*5<`}Tud57>1Y%b|b-Y~()~\t,LZ3e up1/bO{=-) User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Darwin) Xref: csiph.com comp.mobile.android:128207 misc.phone.mobile.iphone:183380 comp.sys.mac.apps:46919 On 2023-12-11, Carlos E. R. wrote: > On 2023-12-10 18:14, Jolly Roger wrote: >> On 2023-12-10, Carlos E. R. wrote: >>> On 2023-12-10 10:38, Jörg Lorenz wrote: >>>> On 09.12.23 22:21, Carlos E. R. wrote: >>>>> On 2023-12-09 21:05, Wally J wrote: >>>>>> "Carlos E. R." wrote >>>>>> >>>>>>>> Not at all.  Apple's system is not a walled garden.  More like an >>>>>>>> exclusive country club where you get more but can also go >>>>>>>> anywhere off of the club you want. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The point is that *here* there are only 21% of iPhones, so those >>>>>>> users have to get out of their walled garden to talk with the >>>>>>> people, 80% of which are on Android. So, they don't use iMessages. >>>>>> >>>>>> Carlos brings up the valid points that most of the world is on >>>>>> Android, and most of the world seems to use WhatsApp (which is the >>>>>> same as iMessage anyway, in terms of needing to connect to a >>>>>> middleman mothership server). >>>>>> >>>>>> But even those on Android in the US have no problem communicating >>>>>> with iPhone users; it's always mainly the iPhone users who complain >>>>>> about it. >>>>> >>>>> That is not so. >>>>> >>>>> Android users have to communicate with iPhone users using third >>>>> party tools, like WhatsApp, thats not popular in the USA, or ancient >>>>> protocols like SMS, which lack features. Or use MMS, which in many >>>>> countries it is expensive, or is being phased out. >>>>> >>>>> So yes, we do have problems and we do complain. >>>> >>>> I think this is a fair statement. iPhone users do not complain. >>> >>> Yes, they do, when they want to communicate with Android users and can >>> not send photos or multimedia >> >> No, they can send photos and multimedia. > > Not in Europe, not probably in most of the world. Not using imessages. People in those countries don't use iMessage in the first place. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR