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Re: A quick look at Bulldozer thread scheduling

Date 2011-11-28 03:21 -0500
From Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com>
Newsgroups comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips, comp.sys.intel
Subject Re: A quick look at Bulldozer thread scheduling
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On 26/11/2011 4:59 PM, willbill wrote:
> Sat, 26 Nov 2011 00:19:40 -0500, Yousuf Khan  wrote:
>> Probably depends on what you're upgrading from. I just picked up a
>> Phenom II X6 1100T BE to replace an X3 710. It was both an upgrade in
>> GHz as well as cores. So that was a noticeable upgrade. But those are 6
>> real cores. A 4-core Bulldozer's cores would be more like 2 cores and 4
>> Hyperthreads. Bulldozers do start off with pretty high GHz though, which
>> is nice.
>
> Thanks for the response.
>
> I'm running Phenom II X4 955 BE, so for me
> it's not likely to be much of an upgrade.

Also what I think. Perhaps, a Bulldozer 8xxx series would be much more 
noticeable too you: 4 modules/8 cores in AMD terminology, 4 cores/8 
threads in generic terminology.

> I'm also starting to look at Intel, but that'd take
> both a cpu and mobo, and the Intel based mobo's
> cost more than the comparable AMD units.
> If you hadn't noticed, the last time I bought
> Intel was a very long time ago. :)

I don't see a problem with going Intel, if you really want a performance 
upgrade that's noticeable right now. But in order to do that, you'll 
need not just an expensive Intel mobo, but also an expensive Intel 
processor. The high-end Phenom II's, despite their pre-conceived 
sad-sack reputations are no slouches when compared to Intel's offerings. 
Only the highest end Intels would put them to shame, and only in some 
cases.

You might find that going with an FM1 motherboard with an upcoming 
Trinity core processor would be the better deal. The built-in *real* GPU 
alone would be worth it.

> Anyhow, It's not like I'm doing anything so
> demanding that I need to move to a more
> powerful PC setup. And as I've not seen
> any great deals (I'm not really looking),
> I'll keep waiting.

I waited 3-4 years for this particular upgrade, myself.

>>> Re the site, I found "Life in the lab with Noctua's CPU coolers"
>>> to be more interesting: http://techreport.com/articles.x/21873
>>>
>>> I've 2 of the NH-U12P SE2, so count me as biased. :)
>>
>> I haven't ventured into the realm of aftermarket coolers yet. I'm trying
>> to find some headroom within my stock coolers right now.
>
> FWIW, I only use the best of AMD's stock
> coolers with my least demanding cpu's.
> They're inadequate and noisy with most
> of AMD's faster cpu's.

I'm thinking that with the current processor that I have, if I do decide 
to replace the stock cooler, then I'll go with a water cooler right off 
the bat.

Actually, my priority is not a cooler for the next upgrade. It would 
either be an SSD, or an upgrade to my GPU. The GPU because I've waited 
even longer to upgrade my GPU than the CPU, currently a Geforce 8600GT. 
The SSD because I'm finding that really my biggest daily bottleneck is 
my OS boot disk speed. Based on Windows Experience Index, my biggest 
bottleneck is the GPU, rated at 4.8 out of 7.9; but my hard disks get 
5.9 on the index. But of course, it's the hard disk that gets used 
constantly, the highest functions of the GPU is used infrequently.

	Yousuf Khan

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A quick look at Bulldozer thread scheduling Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2011-11-10 02:14 -0500
  Re: A quick look at Bulldozer thread scheduling "Orson Cart" <ex-privat@parts.org> - 2011-11-10 13:24 +0100
    Re: A quick look at Bulldozer thread scheduling Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2011-11-10 14:50 -0500
  Re: A quick look at Bulldozer thread scheduling willbill <postonNG@postonNG.net> - 2011-11-20 11:17 -0600
    Re: A quick look at Bulldozer thread scheduling Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2011-11-26 00:19 -0500
      Re: A quick look at Bulldozer thread scheduling willbill <postonNG@postonNG.net> - 2011-11-26 15:59 -0600
        Re: A quick look at Bulldozer thread scheduling Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2011-11-28 03:21 -0500
          Re: A quick look at Bulldozer thread scheduling willbill <postonNG@postonNG.net> - 2011-11-28 08:40 -0600
            Re: A quick look at Bulldozer thread scheduling Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2011-11-28 20:48 -0500
              Re: A quick look at Bulldozer thread scheduling "Orson Cart" <ex-privat@parts.org> - 2011-12-03 14:18 +0100
                Re: A quick look at Bulldozer thread scheduling Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2011-12-05 11:35 -0500

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