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Re: A quick look at Bulldozer thread scheduling

From willbill <postonNG@postonNG.net>
Newsgroups comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips, comp.sys.intel
Subject Re: A quick look at Bulldozer thread scheduling
Date 2011-11-26 15:59 -0600
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Sat, 26 Nov 2011 00:19:40 -0500, Yousuf Khan  wrote:

> On 20/11/2011 12:17 PM, willbill wrote:
> > Thu, 10 Nov 2011 02:14:03 -0500, Yousuf Khan  wrote:
> >
> >> It looks like AMD could've saved themselves a lot of embarrassment by
> >> simply making the secondary cores in each module look like an Intel
> >> Hyperthreading thread rather than simply as another full core.
> >>
> >> A quick look at Bulldozer thread scheduling - The Tech Report - Page 1
> >> http://techreport.com/articles.x/21865
> >
> > Nice ref, nice site.
> >
> > What's your take on value of 4-core FX-4100 at $105?
> 
> Probably depends on what you're upgrading from. I just picked up a 
> Phenom II X6 1100T BE to replace an X3 710. It was both an upgrade in 
> GHz as well as cores. So that was a noticeable upgrade. But those are 6 
> real cores. A 4-core Bulldozer's cores would be more like 2 cores and 4 
> Hyperthreads. Bulldozers do start off with pretty high GHz though, which 
> is nice.

Thanks for the response.

I'm running Phenom II X4 955 BE, so for me 
it's not likely to be much of an upgrade.

BTW I read your separate thread on your new 
Phenom II X6 1100T BE with interest. :)

re FX-4100, I wouldn't mind getting some 1st hand
experience as that's what really counts. I've also
already got a decent AM3+ mobo.
 
For the moment I'm waiting to see a detailed 
review of the FX-4100. So far the initial month 
of user reviews are positive, but it's easy 
to write that off as AMD "fan boy" stuff.

I'm also starting to look at Intel, but that'd take
both a cpu and mobo, and the Intel based mobo's 
cost more than the comparable AMD units.
If you hadn't noticed, the last time I bought
Intel was a very long time ago. :)

BTW I noticed that XMAS showed up two 
full weeks earlier this year than last. :)

Comment on PBS news a few days ago 
was that per person spending is likely 
to be slightly down this season, hence 
the earlier advertising.

Anyhow, It's not like I'm doing anything so 
demanding that I need to move to a more 
powerful PC setup. And as I've not seen
any great deals (I'm not really looking), 
I'll keep waiting.

> > Re the site, I found "Life in the lab with Noctua's CPU coolers"
> > to be more interesting: http://techreport.com/articles.x/21873
> >
> > I've 2 of the NH-U12P SE2, so count me as biased. :)
> 
> I haven't ventured into the realm of aftermarket coolers yet. I'm trying 
> to find some headroom within my stock coolers right now.

FWIW, I only use the best of AMD's stock 
coolers with my least demanding cpu's.
They're inadequate and noisy with most
of AMD's faster cpu's.

While the Noctua coolers look expensive, 
they're in fact the cheapest of all of them 
as you get premium fans (*plural*) along 
with the premium heatsink. I also like that
Noctua provides convenient in-line resistors
that allow the fan speed to be lowered.

The NH-U12P SE2 does need a case that's 
a minimum of roughly 8" thick. amazon
tends to have best pricing, but not always.
And due to their use of 3rd party vendors,
pricing varies a lot there.

Bill

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A quick look at Bulldozer thread scheduling Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2011-11-10 02:14 -0500
  Re: A quick look at Bulldozer thread scheduling Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2011-11-10 14:50 -0500
  Re: A quick look at Bulldozer thread scheduling willbill <postonNG@postonNG.net> - 2011-11-20 11:17 -0600
    Re: A quick look at Bulldozer thread scheduling Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2011-11-26 00:19 -0500
      Re: A quick look at Bulldozer thread scheduling willbill <postonNG@postonNG.net> - 2011-11-26 15:59 -0600
        Re: A quick look at Bulldozer thread scheduling Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2011-11-28 03:21 -0500
          Re: A quick look at Bulldozer thread scheduling willbill <postonNG@postonNG.net> - 2011-11-28 08:40 -0600
            Re: A quick look at Bulldozer thread scheduling Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2011-11-28 20:48 -0500

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