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Re: Intel CPU prices going up?

From Paul <nospam@needed.invalid>
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-10, comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips, comp.sys.intel, alt.windows7.general
Subject Re: Intel CPU prices going up?
Date 2018-11-13 18:16 -0500
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Yousuf Khan wrote:
> On 10/24/2018 4:39 AM, Paul wrote:
>> I think the Ryzen is a single die with two CCX on it.
>> So your yield is for an 8 core chips.
>>
>> https://wccftech.com/amd-zeppelin-soc-isscc-detailed-7nm-epyc-64-cores-rumor/ 
>>
>>
>>     Paul
> 
> The CCX's are separate dies. That's why AMD is able to produce so many 
> of them for cheaply. In fact, it's given AMD a real advantage over 
> Intel, as Intel can't easily produce multi-chip modules yet. It needs a 
> major design overhaul to achieve that. AMD probably already took the 
> pain during the Bulldozer years, ironed out all of the necessary steps 
> to produce MCM modules. Even though Bulldozer weren't MCM's, they had a 
> lot of features similar to MCM's.
> 
>     Yousuf Khan

Looks like one silicon die to me. There are two IP blocks on it.

http://i.imgur.com/9TIpxDY.jpg

On the mobile part, there is one IP block (4 cores/8 threads)

https://tablet-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/amd_ryzen_processor_with_radeon_graphics_press_deck-legal_final-page-037.jpg

https://www.anandtech.com/show/11964/ryzen-mobile-is-launched-amd-apus-for-laptops-with-vega-and-updated-zen

   "While Ryzen, Threadripper, and EPYC have used the 8-core Zeppelin
    building block for their products, the laptop side of the equation
    will combine the new high-performance Zen core with the latest Vega
    graphics in a single piece of silicon.

    Quad-Core with SMT
    Vega 10 - 10 CUs (640 SPs)
   "

Die shot of the mobile part, with one CCX on the left, GPU on the right.

    https://images.anandtech.com/doci/11964/amd_ryzen_processor_with_radeon_graphics_press_deck-legal_final-page-052_678x452.jpg

HTH,
    Paul

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