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Re: Intel CPU prices going up?

From Paul <nospam@needed.invalid>
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-10, comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips, comp.sys.intel, alt.windows7.general
Subject Re: Intel CPU prices going up?
Date 2018-10-24 04:39 -0400
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Yousuf Khan wrote:
> On 10/23/2018 1:45 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
>> You're obviously making guesses.  Demand hasn't gone up despite all the
>> news pundits saying otherwise.  "Apparently" is another guess.
> 
> We all are, as Intel obviously won't tell us. Anything you or I say will 
> just be guesses. No point in mentioning it even, as it's assumed. But we 
> all have our years of experience to draw on, and our guesses can be 
> somewhat accurate.
> 
> Intel is having to produce six- and eight-core processors when it's used 
> to producing only quad-core maximum. It produced a lot of good dies of 
> quad-core, but a hex- or octa-core will have larger dies, and that would 
> make the number of good dies lower. A die that is twice as big will 
> result in an overall 75%-80% decrease in the number dies per wafer. That 
> includes wasted space along the sides of the wafer.
> 
> Whereas AMD is just continuing to produce quad-core dies all day long, 
> and if it wants an octa-core, it just gives you two of them!
> 
>     Yousuf Khan

I think the Ryzen is a single die with two CCX on it.
So your yield is for an 8 core chips.

https://wccftech.com/amd-zeppelin-soc-isscc-detailed-7nm-epyc-64-cores-rumor/

    Paul

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