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  RPC and BT? "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-04-22 13:04 +0100
    Re: RPC and BT? Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-04-22 13:29 +0100
      Re: RPC and BT? Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> - 2012-04-22 13:56 +0100
        Re: RPC and BT? Jeremy Nicoll - news posts <jn.nntp.scrap007@wingsandbeaks.org.uk> - 2012-04-22 14:36 +0100
          Re: RPC and BT? Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> - 2012-04-22 17:08 +0100
        Re: RPC and BT? Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-04-22 15:20 +0100
    Re: RPC and BT? spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-04-22 14:06 +0100
      Re: RPC and BT? Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-04-22 16:05 +0100
        Re: RPC and BT? T M Smith <thomas.smith57@ntlworld.com> - 2012-04-22 22:04 +0100
          Re: RPC and BT? Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> - 2012-04-22 22:26 +0100
            Re: RPC and BT? T M Smith <thomas.smith57@ntlworld.com> - 2012-04-22 22:43 +0100
            Re: RPC and BT? Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-04-22 23:08 +0100
              Re: RPC and BT? Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-04-22 23:03 +0000
                Re: RPC and BT? Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-04-23 09:06 +0100
              Re: RPC and BT? Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-04-23 02:15 +0200
                Re: RPC and BT? spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-04-23 19:57 +0100
                  Re: RPC and BT? Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-04-24 05:25 +0200
                    Re: RPC and BT? cferris@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid - 2012-04-24 13:25 +0100
              Re: RPC and BT? Rosemary Miskin <miskin@orpheusmail.co.uk> - 2012-04-23 19:20 +0100
        Re: RPC and BT? Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-04-22 23:16 +0100
          Re: RPC and BT? spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-04-23 20:01 +0100
            Re: RPC and BT? Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-04-24 09:30 +0100
        Re: RPC and BT? spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-04-23 00:01 +0100

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#5037 — RPC and BT?

Took my laptop next door and found it seemed to work rather quicker. Their
ISP is BT - mine was Pipex now Talktalk or whatever they call themselves
now.

I have a Billion router bought from CJE which works fine - cabled outputs
to two RPCs, two PCs and the PVR, with the wireless side used for a couple
of laptops. I can swap stuff between all, thanks to LanMan98.

If I went over to BT, would there be problems setting everything up to
work in the same way?

-- 
*How's my driving? Call 999*

    Dave Plowman        dave@davenoise.co.uk           London SW
                  To e-mail, change noise into sound.

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#5038

In article <528464ae15dave@davenoise.co.uk>, Dave Plowman (News)
<dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
> Took my laptop next door and found it seemed to work rather quicker.
> Their ISP is BT - mine was Pipex now Talktalk or whatever they call
> themselves now.

Do Pipex/talk Talk etc., have their own equipment installed in your
exchange or (as mine does here) does your ISP resell a BT connexion?

www.samknows.com/broadband/exchange_search

It may only be a better quality line, or a better/newer ADSL modem giving
better 'reception' down the wire. BT may be crap at a lot of things but
their Home Hubs seem pretty good.

[Snip]

> If I went over to BT, would there be problems setting everything up to
> work in the same way?

Can't see why there would be.

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#5039

In message <528466e679tim@invalid.org.uk>
          Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> wrote:

> In article <528464ae15dave@davenoise.co.uk>, Dave Plowman (News)
> <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
>> Took my laptop next door and found it seemed to work rather quicker.
>> Their ISP is BT - mine was Pipex now Talktalk or whatever they call
>> themselves now.

> Do Pipex/talk Talk etc., have their own equipment installed in your
> exchange or (as mine does here) does your ISP resell a BT connexion?

> www.samknows.com/broadband/exchange_search

> It may only be a better quality line, or a better/newer ADSL modem giving
> better 'reception' down the wire. BT may be crap at a lot of things but
> their Home Hubs seem pretty good.

Don't forget if their router is used then it may be that it has 11n 
wireless as opposed to 11g and some have gigabit ports all of which 
help.

Also you need to be careful in that even lines to the same premises 
can exhibit different speeds and throughput as thats my experience 
with the two ADSL lines coming in to my house. I've had entertaining 
discussions about the speed difference and lets just say the line that 
terminates in the house at the earliest/shortest main point isn't the 
quickest but the autorobotots on the support lines still spout out the 
same line "it varies on the length of your line" even though one is at 
least 10 mtrs shorter by length in my house than the other to the 
termination point.

The other thing that varies things are ADSL equipement in the main 
exchange , airborne interference, mains interference, extn sockets 
etc.

> [Snip]

>> If I went over to BT, would there be problems setting everything up to
>> work in the same way?

> Can't see why there would be.

There should not be an issue though a RISC OS browser friendly router 
sometimes helps.

You would also need to know details of the mail/news servers and 
possibly the primary/secondary named servers. All of these details are 
available via the BT online help articles

Doug

-- 
See and experience the future using ARM Technology - BeagleBoard -xM, 
Cortex A8 and RISC OS 5.19.

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#5042

Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> wrote:

> Also you need to be careful in that even lines to the same premises can
> exhibit different speeds and throughput as thats my experience with the
> two ADSL lines coming in to my house. I've had entertaining discussions
> about the speed difference and lets just say the line that terminates in
> the house at the earliest/shortest main point isn't the quickest but the
> autorobotots on the support lines still spout out the same line "it varies
> on the length of your line" even though one is at least 10 mtrs shorter by
> length in my house than the other to the termination point.

While they're "spouting", you seem to have missed the point that it's not
the extra 10m of wire in your house that may make the difference.  Those two
lines presumably both come from your local exchange, and go to your house,
but there's no reason why they need to follow the same route via BT's cable
ducts, overhead lines etc apart from that.  For all you know one might be
more or less directly to you and the other may take a detour via some other
cabinets which had spare capacity when one or other line was connected.

-- 
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Email sent to my from-address will be deleted. Instead, please reply
to newsreplyaaa@wingsandbeaks.org.uk replacing "aaa" by "284".  

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#5047

In message <mpro.m2vv4v005nfsh01cs@wingsandbeaks.org.uk.invalid>
          Jeremy Nicoll - news posts 
<jn.nntp.scrap007@wingsandbeaks.org.uk> wrote:

> Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> wrote:

>> Also you need to be careful in that even lines to the same premises can
>> exhibit different speeds and throughput as thats my experience with the
>> two ADSL lines coming in to my house. I've had entertaining discussions
>> about the speed difference and lets just say the line that terminates in
>> the house at the earliest/shortest main point isn't the quickest but the
>> autorobotots on the support lines still spout out the same line "it varies
>> on the length of your line" even though one is at least 10 mtrs shorter by
>> length in my house than the other to the termination point.

> While they're "spouting", you seem to have missed the point that it's not
> the extra 10m of wire in your house that may make the difference.  Those two
> lines presumably both come from your local exchange, and go to your house,
> but there's no reason why they need to follow the same route via BT's cable
> ducts, overhead lines etc apart from that.  For all you know one might be
> more or less directly to you and the other may take a detour via some other
> cabinets which had spare capacity when one or other line was connected.

Yes agree and should have mentioned that as well.

My point being that I had a difference between to ADSL's coming to 
seemingly the same place of 1.5MB between the good and poor one and 
they would not look in to it as it was within acceptable limits and 
they tried to fob me off and to tell me that it was due to distance my 
home was from the exchange and not the route/cable quality or exchange 
equipment I was connected to. On one occasion I was told I was lucky 
to get any broadband even though I had service for 8yrs plus.

Anyway I got it solved after some persistance and once I got past the 
autoque robots. Once past them the level of service I got from the 
support team was very good indeed as I had the DSlam equipement I was 
attached to changed, config rebuilt and the line pairs changed from 
the exchange to my house.


-- 
See and experience the future using ARM Technology - BeagleBoard -xM, 
Cortex A8 and RISC OS 5.19.

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#5043

In article <175e698452.dougjwebb@doug.j.webb.btinternet.com>, Doug Webb
<doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> wrote:
> In message <528466e679tim@invalid.org.uk> Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk>
>           wrote:

> > In article <528464ae15dave@davenoise.co.uk>, Dave Plowman (News)
> > <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

[Snip]

> Don't forget if their router is used then it may be that it has 11n
> wireless as opposed to 11g and some have gigabit ports all of which
> help.

It is highly unlikely that this will effect broadband speed. G and
megabit ports are more than fast enough for the majority of non-FTTP
broadband.

> Also you need to be careful in that even lines to the same premises
> can exhibit different speeds and throughput as thats my experience
> with the two ADSL lines coming in to my house. I've had entertaining
> discussions about the speed difference and lets just say the line that
> terminates in the house at the earliest/shortest main point isn't the
> quickest but the autorobotots on the support lines still spout out the
> same line "it varies on the length of your line" even though one is at
> least 10 mtrs shorter by length in my house than the other to the
> termination point.

Not only that but in the days of poor modem speeds a local BT engineer
said he would make sure my line was included in the dry bundle, as
opposed to the bundle which used to get submerged when it rained!

> The other thing that varies things are ADSL equipement in the main
> exchange , airborne interference, mains interference, extn sockets etc.

Faceplates to the BT socket are meant to make a difference too.

[Snip]

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#5040

In article <528464ae15dave@davenoise.co.uk>, Dave Plowman (News)
<dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
> Took my laptop next door and found it seemed to work rather quicker.
> Their ISP is BT - mine was Pipex now Talktalk or whatever they call
> themselves now.

> I have a Billion router bought from CJE which works fine - cabled
> outputs to two RPCs, two PCs and the PVR, with the wireless side used
> for a couple of laptops. I can swap stuff between all, thanks to
> LanMan98.

> If I went over to BT, would there be problems setting everything up to
> work in the same way?

I was on Pipex -- Tiscalali -- Talk Talk (Owning company Opal Telecom and
collection of people not knowing a lot about truth...)

I'm now on BT.
Same line and same router gave better speed and I haven't got around to
installing the homehub yet

Works fine, but the individual user accounts have individual passwords that
MUST be used when sending mail.
Since I use Popstar as the sender I concocted a front-end I dubbed
"backstage" that helps out popstar by changing the account variables before
each users send task using Popstar. It's just a bit of BASIC wrapped up as
an application. File date is July last year and I haven't had to tweak
anything since then.
There may well be a commercial item that does the same sort of thing, if
not you too could suffer my untidy efforts.

-- 

Steve Pampling

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#5044

In article <52846a5395spam.pling@btinternet.com>,
   spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> wrote:

> Works fine, but the individual user accounts have
> individual passwords that MUST be used when sending mail.

I have no intention of ever again, ever, having anything to
do with BT directly. I leave that soul-destroying task to my
telco. It is, in part, what I pay them for.

But, just out of interest, you could presumably still send
your e-mail via a third-party SMTP server using SMTP
Authentication? Or does BT block that too?

-- 
Russell
http://www.russell-hafter-holidays.co.uk
Russell Hafter Holidays         E-mail to enquiries at our domain
Need a hotel? <http://www.hrs.com/?client=en__blue&customerId=416873103>

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#5060

In message <5284752fe6see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>
          Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> 
wrote:

> In article <52846a5395spam.pling@btinternet.com>,
>    spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> wrote:

>> Works fine, but the individual user accounts have
>> individual passwords that MUST be used when sending mail.

> I have no intention of ever again, ever, having anything to
> do with BT directly. I leave that soul-destroying task to my
> telco. It is, in part, what I pay them for.

> But, just out of interest, you could presumably still send
> your e-mail via a third-party SMTP server using SMTP
> Authentication? Or does BT block that too?
While on this topic could I ask Is it necessary to go through Yahoo to 
set up a BT email system.
My brother has still not got his system working!

Malcolm Smith


-- 
T M Smith
Using an Iyonix and RISC OS 5.16 in the North Riding of Yorkshire

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#5063

In message <bd17968452.Broadband@thomas.smith57.virginmedia.com>
          T M Smith <thomas.smith57@ntlworld.com> wrote:


[snip]

>> 
> While on this topic could I ask Is it necessary to go through Yahoo to
> set up a BT email system.
> My brother has still not got his system working!

> Malcolm Smith

Well BT use Yahoo as their email service provider and set up your main 
identity for you which you can alter and set up sub accounts, up to 
10, via the main BT front end.

Not had any issues my self and !Netsurf seems to still work to access 
things at the moment.

-- 
Using an IYONIX pc and RISC OS 5.19, the thinking person's alternative 
operating system to Microsoft Windows.

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#5064

In message <161c988452.dougjwebb@btinternet.com>
          Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> wrote:

> In message <bd17968452.Broadband@thomas.smith57.virginmedia.com>
>           T M Smith <thomas.smith57@ntlworld.com> wrote:


> [snip]

>>> 
>> While on this topic could I ask Is it necessary to go through Yahoo to
>> set up a BT email system.
>> My brother has still not got his system working!

>> Malcolm Smith

> Well BT use Yahoo as their email service provider and set up your main
> identity for you which you can alter and set up sub accounts, up to
> 10, via the main BT front end.

> Not had any issues my self and !Netsurf seems to still work to access
> things at the moment.
Thanks for your reply. I take it that it means 'yes', especially for 
the uninitiated.

Malcolm


-- 
T M Smith
Using an Iyonix and RISC OS 5.16 in the North Riding of Yorkshire

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#5068

In article <161c988452.dougjwebb@btinternet.com>,
   Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> wrote:

> Well BT use Yahoo as their email service provider and set up your main 
> identity for you which you can alter and set up sub accounts, up to 
> 10, via the main BT front end.

Ah yes, I had forgotten that - another good reason to stay away from B.T.

My wife has a Yahoo account and she's forever complaining about the amount
of spam and other crap that turns up in her inbox.

-- 
Stuart Winsor

Only plain text for emails
http://www.asciiribbon.org

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#5070

On 22 Apr 2012, Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <161c988452.dougjwebb@btinternet.com>,
>    Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> > Well BT use Yahoo as their email service provider and set up your
> > main identity for you which you can alter and set up sub accounts,
> > up to 10, via the main BT front end.
>
> Ah yes, I had forgotten that - another good reason to stay away from
> B.T.
>
> My wife has a Yahoo account and she's forever complaining about the
> amount of spam and other crap that turns up in her inbox.

I also have a Yahoo account and, in my experience, spam delivered to the
inbox is uncommon. Has your Wife enabled Yahoo's Spamguard?

Tony

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#5075

In article <7303a18452.old_coaster@old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk>,
   Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> I also have a Yahoo account and, in my experience, spam delivered to the
> inbox is uncommon. Has your Wife enabled Yahoo's Spamguard?

Have you heard about the "small ad" that appeared in some newspaper or
other - supposedly true?

"Complete encyclopedia Brittanica for sale. I have just got married and I
no longer need it as my wife knows everything"

After almost 40 years of marriage, I have discovered the best way of
maintaining my own sanity  is to sound sympathetic, agree with her, and
make soothing noises.

-- 
Stuart Winsor

Only plain text for emails
http://www.asciiribbon.org

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#5072

On Sun, 22 Apr 2012 23:08:20 +0100, Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> 
wrote:

> My wife has a Yahoo account and she's forever complaining about the 
amount
> of spam and other crap that turns up in her inbox.

Apparently there's enough cash lying around in Burkina Faso to rescue 
the Eurozone...


Best wishes,

Rick.

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#5086

In article <almarsoft.7731148238296398070@news.orange.fr>, Rick Murray
<heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Apr 2012 23:08:20 +0100, Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk>
> wrote:

> > My wife has a Yahoo account and she's forever complaining about the 
> amount
> > of spam and other crap that turns up in her inbox.

> Apparently there's enough cash lying around in Burkina Faso to rescue
> the Eurozone...

According to my friend at work if he can get the correct paperwork and
administration charge sorted out then all that cash is going to him and he
might give me a share.
Sadly he wastes much of his time taking pictures of the pigs flying outside
his house.

-- 

Steve Pampling

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#5091

On Mon, 23 Apr 2012 19:57:29 +0100, spampling 
<spam.pling@btinternet.com> wrote:

> Sadly he wastes much of his time taking pictures of the pigs flying 
> outside his house.

Ah, so he lives near Heathrow Terminal 6... :-P


Best wishes,

Rick.

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#5095

In message <almarsoft.5522584676764037760@news.orange.fr>
          Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> On Mon, 23 Apr 2012 19:57:29 +0100, spampling 
> <spam.pling@btinternet.com> wrote:
> 
> > Sadly he wastes much of his time taking pictures of the pigs flying 
> > outside his house.
> 
> Ah, so he lives near Heathrow Terminal 6... :-P
> 

Drucks home airport - where he keeps his Triplane stapled together :-)

-- 
Colin Ferris Cornwall UK

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#5104

In article <52849beef5Spambin@argonet.co.uk>, Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk>
wrote:
> My wife has a Yahoo account and she's forever complaining about the amount
> of spam and other crap that turns up in her inbox.


My husband has had a Bt account for a year, and has yet to get /any/ spam.

Rosemary

 

-- 
Rosemary Miskin     ZFC Sm   miskin@orpheusmail.co.uk
Loughborough, UK             http://miskin.orpheusweb.co.uk

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#5069

In article <5284752fe6see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>,
   Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> wrote:

> I have no intention of ever again, ever, having anything to
> do with BT directly. I leave that soul-destroying task to my
> telco. It is, in part, what I pay them for.

I want as little to do with them as possible too.

I don't like their marketing technique for one - you know the one where
they ring you up and say "We've got this new free service would you like
to have it" and twelve months later you find you're paying for this "free"
service.

Then there was Phorm. OK that seems to have gone away for the moment but
what are they going to come up with next without telling their customers
they're spying on them. Any company that can do that cannot be trusted.

Also, any decent person would be appalled at the dreadful, unethical way
they treat their staff.

-- 
Stuart Winsor

Only plain text for emails
http://www.asciiribbon.org

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