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| Started by | Jim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk> |
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| First post | 2011-07-30 19:51 +0100 |
| Last post | 2011-08-02 09:38 +0100 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 79 — 23 participants |
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Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Jim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk> - 2011-07-30 19:51 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-07-30 23:23 +0200
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> - 2011-07-31 06:59 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? "Rob Hemmings (news2)" <robnews@rgvk.co.uk> - 2011-07-31 08:24 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2011-07-31 09:27 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-07-31 10:37 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> - 2011-07-31 10:49 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2011-07-31 11:24 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> - 2011-07-31 12:32 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2011-07-31 13:45 +0200
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-07-31 14:32 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> - 2011-08-01 11:01 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-07-31 18:25 +0200
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Jim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk> - 2011-07-31 13:01 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-07-31 18:33 +0200
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2011-07-31 23:47 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Jim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk> - 2011-08-01 00:11 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2011-08-01 00:29 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2011-08-01 00:06 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-08-01 08:54 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Ian Hamilton <Ian.Hamilton@AAUG.net> - 2011-08-01 09:11 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-08-01 09:25 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Jim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk> - 2011-08-01 11:47 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-08-02 10:39 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-08-02 22:59 +0200
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-08-02 22:37 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer Ray Dawson <ray@magray.freeserve.co.uk> - 2011-08-02 22:55 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2011-08-02 23:19 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2011-08-03 06:51 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-08-03 08:52 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2011-08-03 11:59 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer Brian Carroll <bric-nospam@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-08-03 11:59 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2011-08-03 15:11 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer Brian Carroll <bric-nospam@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-08-03 20:26 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer Martin Thomas <address_is@invalid.invalid> - 2011-08-03 21:28 +0000
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-08-04 12:15 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer Martin Thomas <address_is@invalid.invalid> - 2011-08-04 12:27 +0000
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-08-05 01:37 +0200
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer "David Holden" <SpamBin@apdl.co.uk> - 2011-08-05 06:11 +0000
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2011-08-05 10:05 +0200
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2011-08-05 09:35 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> - 2011-08-04 12:26 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2011-08-04 14:10 +0200
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> - 2011-08-04 17:17 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-08-05 01:48 +0200
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2011-08-03 23:25 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer Brian Carroll <bric-nospam@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-08-04 09:53 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer Brian Carroll <bric-nospam@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-08-08 07:50 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2011-08-08 08:04 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer "Barry Allen (news)" <evanallen@onetel.net.uk.invalid> - 2011-08-08 08:26 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer Brian Carroll <bric-nospam@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-08-08 20:07 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> - 2011-08-08 16:49 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-08-04 01:23 +0200
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-08-04 01:27 +0200
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-08-03 00:44 +0200
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2011-08-02 11:15 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Kevin Wells <kevinwells@talktalk.net> - 2011-08-02 11:56 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-08-02 14:00 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Kevin Wells <kevinwells@talktalk.net> - 2011-08-02 14:48 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Jim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk> - 2011-08-02 13:49 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2011-08-02 15:43 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Jim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk> - 2011-08-03 00:02 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-08-02 16:04 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> - 2011-08-02 17:26 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Dr Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> - 2011-08-02 18:22 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-08-02 23:04 +0200
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-08-02 22:39 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2011-08-03 09:51 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Jim Lesurf <noise@audiomisc.co.uk> - 2011-08-03 12:24 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2011-08-03 23:50 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Jim Lesurf <noise@audiomisc.co.uk> - 2011-08-04 09:14 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Jim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk> - 2011-08-04 10:53 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Kevin Wells <kevinwells@talktalk.net> - 2011-08-04 13:03 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? cferris@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid - 2011-08-01 10:00 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> - 2011-07-31 10:59 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? "Rob Hemmings (news2)" <robnews@rgvk.co.uk> - 2011-07-31 11:18 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Andrew Conroy <a.m.conroy@owlart.co.uk> - 2011-07-31 11:30 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Jeremy Nicoll - news posts <jn.nntp.scrap007@wingsandbeaks.org.uk> - 2011-08-01 18:46 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> - 2011-08-02 09:38 +0100
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| From | Ian Hamilton <Ian.Hamilton@AAUG.net> |
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| Date | 2011-08-01 09:11 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <51fbd6c137Ian.Hamilton@AAUG.Net> |
| In reply to | #1268 |
In article <51fbd547dfsee.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>, Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> wrote: > In article > <mpro.lp806g0pazzv401kw.news@stevefryatt.org.uk>, Steve > Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote: [Snip] > > Hmm. Apparently we're not "with it" enough to have been > > following this on Twitter: there do seem to have been > > some status reports there, in the absence of a website: > > http://twitter.com/#!/purleyhosting > > (and reading back up their Twitter feed, they do seem to > > have tweeted about previous problems as they happened). > With NetSurf that Twitter link just says that you need > JavaScript and that you could try their mobile phone site, > but no info on how to get to the bit that you might want. http://mobile.twitter.com/purleyhosting [Snip] HTH, Ian
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| From | Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> |
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| Date | 2011-08-01 09:25 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <51fbd80ae0see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> |
| In reply to | #1269 |
In article <51fbd6c137Ian.Hamilton@AAUG.Net>, Ian Hamilton <Ian.Hamilton@AAUG.net> wrote: > In article <51fbd547dfsee.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>, > Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> > wrote: > > In article > > <mpro.lp806g0pazzv401kw.news@stevefryatt.org.uk>, Steve > > Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote: > [Snip] > > > Hmm. Apparently we're not "with it" enough to have > > > been following this on Twitter: there do seem to have > > > been some status reports there, in the absence of a > > > website: > > > http://twitter.com/#!/purleyhosting > > > (and reading back up their Twitter feed, they do seem > > > to have tweeted about previous problems as they > > > happened). > > With NetSurf that Twitter link just says that you need > > JavaScript and that you could try their mobile phone > > site, but no info on how to get to the bit that you > > might want. > http://mobile.twitter.com/purleyhosting Far too obvious. Based on the above, I had tried http://mobile.twitter.com/#!/purleyhosting and got nowhere. Presumably @ColinTheMathmo (Colin Wright) is someone who understands Twitter as a way of communicating? Annoying though, that you cannot see the whole conversation on one page, just one side or the other! It looks like a serious server problem, but if it is just the one server, I am not sure why everything should be down. I had understood from Neil that my websites were not all on the same server; similarly for e-mail. -- Russell http://www.russell-hafter-holidays.co.uk Russell Hafter Holidays E-mail to enquiries at our domain Need a hotel? <http://www.hrs.com/?client=en__blue&customerId=416873103>
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| From | Jim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2011-08-01 11:47 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <d51ee5fb51.jim@nails.abbeypress.net> |
| In reply to | #1269 |
Ian Hamilton wrote on 1 Aug:
> http://mobile.twitter.com/purleyhosting
thanks, Ian. that mobile version of Twit does the trick in Netsurf.
for those who may understandably prefer to remain twit-innocent, here
is what the Purley folk have warbled so far; it's good to hear that
urgent repair work is progressing:
New server install going well. cPanel install progressing.
User data restore from off-site backup in progress ready for
import.
12 minutes ago [i.e., 2011-08-01 approx 11:10]
Follow our twitter feed for status updates. Memory failure
over weeked caused major disc corruption. We're restoring
services
about 2 hours ago
[Grrr, fine to say status reports are on Twitter. but where do they
say so? on Twitter.]
Update sent at 8.30am [check your feed]. Yes, major
problems, initiating restore procedures onto different
server capacity and will restore user data as the day
progresses [2/2]
about 3 hours ago
Memory issue on server looks to have caused considerable
damage..server unstable to the point of being unusable.
Provisioning addition [1/2]
about 3 hours ago
Running server without apache running for now until
mailqueue empty (about 1000 emails to go).
about 12 hours ago
server currently won't stay up so mail queues not emptying.
Work continuing to stablise it.
about 12 hours ago
Memory error appears to have be caused by a faulty DIM.
Server up and running but DIM reporting critical error rates
about 13 hours ago
server6 issue appears to be out of swap memory. Services
coming up as we speak.
about 13 hours ago
Server problems current under investigation. Apologies for
the extended downtime
1 day ago [i.e., 2011-07-31, sunday]
--
Jim Nagel www.archivemag.co.uk
>> "from" address is genuine but will change. website has current one.
>> ... that is, "from" address will work again when the server does!
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| From | Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> |
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| Date | 2011-08-02 10:39 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer |
| Message-ID | <51fc62acc1see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> |
| In reply to | #1269 |
In article <51fbd6c137Ian.Hamilton@AAUG.Net>, Ian Hamilton <Ian.Hamilton@AAUG.net> wrote: > In article <51fbd547dfsee.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>, > Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> > wrote: > > In article > > <mpro.lp806g0pazzv401kw.news@stevefryatt.org.uk>, Steve > > Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote: > [Snip] > > > Hmm. Apparently we're not "with it" enough to have > > > been following this on Twitter: there do seem to have > > > been some status reports there, in the absence of a > > > website: [Snip] > http://mobile.twitter.com/purleyhosting Now that pretty much everything is up + running again... (though I am receiving a steady trickle of spam, in a way that has never happened before. Last night Neil did post on Twitter that "A few tidy-ups still to do such as spam filtering configuration.") ... perhaps the time is ripe for there to be some discussion here, preferably (and if possible) with contributions from ISPs, as how best to handle communication with customers in the event of something like this happening again? Personally I would like to see postings to a newsgroup (ideally) or mailing list where both sides of the converstion can be seen together, rather than the one sided conversation got from Twitter. Another approach could be based on what Paul Vigay at least hinted at doing, in that he did maintain a mirror of the Orpheus Internet status page on a completely different server. Either way, of course, requires the ISP to make announcements when things do go badly wrong. -- Russell http://www.russell-hafter-holidays.co.uk Russell Hafter Holidays E-mail to enquiries at our domain Need a hotel? <http://www.hrs.com/?client=en__blue&customerId=416873103>
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| From | Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2011-08-02 22:59 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer |
| Message-ID | <4e386518$0$30782$ba4acef3@reader.news.orange.fr> |
| In reply to | #1280 |
On 02/08/2011 11:39, Russell Hafter News wrote: > Either way, of course, requires the ISP to make > announcements when things do go badly wrong. Here here! I've seen a few providers with status announcements days old. I'm not sure that an ISP will want to 'spam' a newsgroup with an outage message, but I certainly think that a mirror page is a good idea. Certainly it wouldn't hurt the smaller ISPs to offer to mirror each other's status pages. Sure, everybody will be "nah, we're good, no need, we'll never be out like that". Which is akin to "backup? why bother backing up?" in levels of cluelessness. ;-) Best wishes, Rick.
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| From | Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> |
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| Date | 2011-08-02 22:37 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer |
| Message-ID | <51fca46376see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> |
| In reply to | #1293 |
In article <4e386518$0$30782$ba4acef3@reader.news.orange.fr>, Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > On 02/08/2011 11:39, Russell Hafter News wrote: > > Either way, of course, requires the ISP to make > > announcements when things do go badly wrong. > Here here! I've seen a few providers with status > announcements days old. > I'm not sure that an ISP will want to 'spam' a newsgroup > with an outage message, but I certainly think that a > mirror page is a good idea. Certainly it wouldn't hurt the > smaller ISPs to offer to mirror each other's status pages. > Sure, everybody will be "nah, we're good, no need, we'll > never be out like that". Which is akin to "backup? why > bother backing up?" in levels of cluelessness. ;-) After posting I realised that what I was thinkimg of was an NG dedicated to the particular ISP. Argonet had them, Orpheus had them, PlusNet, AFAIK still has them. So you simply subscribe to goodisp.announce, or whatever it is called. Perhaps with a weekly posting, which, if there has been anything that might have been mentioned on a status page could carry the same info. Simples. -- Russell http://www.russell-hafter-holidays.co.uk Russell Hafter Holidays E-mail to enquiries at our domain Need a hotel? <http://www.hrs.com/?client=en__blue&customerId=416873103>
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| From | Ray Dawson <ray@magray.freeserve.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2011-08-02 22:55 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer |
| Message-ID | <gemini.lpbm8h00vh1y503ak.ray@magray.freeserve.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #1299 |
Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> wrote: > > So you simply subscribe to goodisp.announce, or whatever it is called. > Perhaps with a weekly posting, which, if there has been anything that > might have been mentioned on a status page could carry the same info. > > Simples. But if goodisp goes belly up, you couldn't access goodisp.announce. On the other hand, if you have a smartphone with a twitter app, you would get the twitter announcement. Cheers, Ray D
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| From | Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> |
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| Date | 2011-08-02 23:19 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer |
| Message-ID | <mpro.lpbnck03qsbn401js.news@stevefryatt.org.uk> |
| In reply to | #1299 |
On 2 Aug, Russell Hafter News wrote in message
<51fca46376see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>:
> After posting I realised that what I was thinkimg of was an NG dedicated
> to the particular ISP. Argonet had them, Orpheus had them, PlusNet, AFAIK
> still has them.
>
> So you simply subscribe to goodisp.announce, or whatever it is called.
> Perhaps with a weekly posting, which, if there has been anything that
> might have been mentioned on a status page could carry the same info.
>
> Simples.
Until their servers fall over, which is what happened here.
Much as I hate to say it, the Twitter solution does seem a good one. The
ISP relies on not having a problem at the same time as Twitter, and anyone
can read the Twitter feed.
--
Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England
http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/
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| From | Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2011-08-03 06:51 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer |
| Message-ID | <51fcd19db0dave@triffid.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #1306 |
In article <mpro.lpbnck03qsbn401js.news@stevefryatt.org.uk>, Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote: [Snippy] > Much as I hate to say it, the Twitter solution does seem a good one. > The ISP relies on not having a problem at the same time as Twitter, and > anyone can read the Twitter feed. Oh the pain! The pain!... -- Dave Triffid
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| From | Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> |
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| Date | 2011-08-03 08:52 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer |
| Message-ID | <51fcdcaf68see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> |
| In reply to | #1306 |
In article <mpro.lpbnck03qsbn401js.news@stevefryatt.org.uk>, Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote: > On 2 Aug, Russell Hafter News wrote in message > <51fca46376see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>: > > After posting I realised that what I was thinkimg of > > was an NG dedicated to the particular ISP. Argonet had > > them, Orpheus had them, PlusNet, AFAIK still has them. > > So you simply subscribe to goodisp.announce, or > > whatever it is called. Perhaps with a weekly posting, > > which, if there has been anything that might have been > > mentioned on a status page could carry the same info. > > Simples. > Until their servers fall over, which is what happened > here. The Argonet groups, while not carried by every news feed, were not restricted to Argonet subscribers. Freeserve used to have publicly available newsgroups too - I subscribed for a cpuple of years, and I never had anything to do with Freeserve. The Orpheus groups were on the Orpheus server, possibly why they never took off. I do not have the time at the moment to check what the current situation with PlusNet is, but will look later. -- Russell http://www.russell-hafter-holidays.co.uk Russell Hafter Holidays E-mail to enquiries at our domain Need a hotel? <http://www.hrs.com/?client=en__blue&customerId=416873103>
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| From | Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2011-08-03 11:59 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer |
| Message-ID | <4ae4edfc51.chris@o2.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #1313 |
In message <51fcdcaf68see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>
Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>
wrote:
> In article
> <mpro.lpbnck03qsbn401js.news@stevefryatt.org.uk>, Steve
> Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote:
>> On 2 Aug, Russell Hafter News wrote in message
>> <51fca46376see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>:
>>> After posting I realised that what I was thinkimg of
>>> was an NG dedicated to the particular ISP. Argonet had
>>> them, Orpheus had them, PlusNet, AFAIK still has them.
>>> So you simply subscribe to goodisp.announce, or
>>> whatever it is called. Perhaps with a weekly posting,
>>> which, if there has been anything that might have been
>>> mentioned on a status page could carry the same info.
>>> Simples.
>> Until their servers fall over, which is what happened
>> here.
> The Argonet groups, while not carried by every news feed,
> were not restricted to Argonet subscribers.
> Freeserve used to have publicly available newsgroups too - I
> subscribed for a cpuple of years, and I never had anything
> to do with Freeserve.
> The Orpheus groups were on the Orpheus server, possibly why
> they never took off.
All of these are ISP's but Purley is not an ISP, its a hosting
company, somewhat different.
--
Chris Hughes
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| From | Brian Carroll <bric-nospam@argonet.co.uk> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2011-08-03 11:59 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer |
| Message-ID | <51fcedcf01bric-nospam@argonet.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #1306 |
In article <mpro.lpbnck03qsbn401js.news@stevefryatt.org.uk>, Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote: [Snip] > Until their servers fall over, which is what happened here. > Much as I hate to say it, the Twitter solution does seem a > good one. The ISP relies on not having a problem at the same > time as Twitter, and anyone can read the Twitter feed. Anyone? I would rather not have anything to do with Twitter but if I had to, how do I read it if my internet connection is 'down' and I have no access to a smart phone? My present ISP, TalkTalk, had problems with servers a couple of weekends ago, but they had added a short voice message, audible immediately on phoning the help line (before the extensive menus), which was a useful warning not to waste much time on the phone. Brian. -- ______________________________________________________________ Brian Carroll, Ripon, N Yorks, UK briancarroll at f2s dot com ______________________________________________________________
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| From | Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2011-08-03 15:11 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer |
| Message-ID | <fa6cfffc51.chris@o2.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #1316 |
In message <51fcedcf01bric-nospam@argonet.co.uk>
Brian Carroll <bric-nospam@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <mpro.lpbnck03qsbn401js.news@stevefryatt.org.uk>,
> Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote:
> [Snip]
>> Until their servers fall over, which is what happened here.
>> Much as I hate to say it, the Twitter solution does seem a
>> good one. The ISP relies on not having a problem at the same
>> time as Twitter, and anyone can read the Twitter feed.
> Anyone? I would rather not have anything to do with Twitter but
> if I had to, how do I read it if my internet connection is
> 'down' and I have no access to a smart phone?
If it was your "internet connection" you would contact your ISP -
Orpheus/TalkTalk in your case, but since Purley is NOT an ISP, its a
hosting company, you could find out from the twitter feed (which is
independent of the Purley servers in this case), since you would still
have interent connection via your ISP - TalkTalk.
> My present ISP, TalkTalk, had problems with servers a couple of
> weekends ago, but they had added a short voice message, audible
> immediately on phoning the help line (before the extensive
> menus), which was a useful warning not to waste much time on the
> phone.
It would indeed have been useful if the phone message was available
sooner.
--
Chris Hughes
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| From | Brian Carroll <bric-nospam@argonet.co.uk> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2011-08-03 20:26 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer |
| Message-ID | <51fd1c3f5dbric-nospam@argonet.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #1323 |
In article <fa6cfffc51.chris@o2.co.uk>, Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> wrote: > In message <51fcedcf01bric-nospam@argonet.co.uk> Brian Carroll > <bric-nospam@argonet.co.uk> wrote: [Snip] > > Anyone? I would rather not have anything to do with Twitter > > but if I had to, how do I read it if my internet connection > > is 'down' and I have no access to a smart phone? > If it was your "internet connection" you would contact your > ISP - Orpheus/TalkTalk in your case, but since Purley is NOT > an ISP, its a hosting company, you could find out from the > twitter feed (which is independent of the Purley servers in > this case), since you would still have interent connection via > your ISP - TalkTalk. I am completely baffled by that :-( I was trying to get some light on the age-old and basic problem of getting information on the state of one's internet service after a failure of that service (raised already by Russell Hafter I think). It's a general problem; not specific to Purley Hosting. Until Twitter was mentioned I had assumed the only means of communication remaining was the phone. I now want to know /how/ to contact Twitter without an internet connection or a fancy phone, and also how to read both sides of the discussion. Brian. -- ______________________________________________________________ Brian Carroll, Ripon, N Yorks, UK briancarroll at f2s dot com ______________________________________________________________
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| From | Martin Thomas <address_is@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2011-08-03 21:28 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer |
| Message-ID | <04j_p.138673$fl.128487@newsfe23.ams2> |
| In reply to | #1324 |
Brian Carroll <bric-nospam@argonet.co.uk> wrote: > Until Twitter was mentioned I had assumed the only means of > communication remaining was the phone. I now want to know /how/ > to contact Twitter without an internet connection or a fancy > phone, and also how to read both sides of the discussion. To read both sides click on the speech balloon icon embedded in the tweet. Martin
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| From | Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> |
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| Date | 2011-08-04 12:15 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer |
| Message-ID | <51fd731d91see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> |
| In reply to | #1325 |
In article <04j_p.138673$fl.128487@newsfe23.ams2>, Martin Thomas <address_is@invalid.invalid> wrote: > Brian Carroll <bric-nospam@argonet.co.uk> wrote: > > Until Twitter was mentioned I had assumed the only > > means of communication remaining was the phone. I now > > want to know /how/ to contact Twitter without an > > internet connection or a fancy phone, and also how to > > read both sides of the discussion. > To read both sides click on the speech balloon icon > embedded in the tweet. I do not see those anywhere. Perhaps they are only available under the JS version of the page? -- Russell http://www.russell-hafter-holidays.co.uk Russell Hafter Holidays E-mail to enquiries at our domain Need a hotel? <http://www.hrs.com/?client=en__blue&customerId=416873103>
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| From | Martin Thomas <address_is@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2011-08-04 12:27 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer |
| Message-ID | <2fw_p.118126$Dk2.16155@newsfe04.ams2> |
| In reply to | #1333 |
Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> wrote: > I do not see those anywhere. Perhaps they are only available > under the JS version of the page? I think that's probably true. I turned off Javascript in Firefox and the speech balloon is still visible but nothing happens when it's clicked on. Netsurf 2.7 on Ubuntu 11.04 dies when I try to view the page. Netsurf 1.2 doesn't show any tweets. Regards, Martin
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| From | Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2011-08-05 01:37 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer |
| Message-ID | <4e3b2d31$0$30775$ba4acef3@reader.news.orange.fr> |
| In reply to | #1336 |
On 04/08/2011 14:27, Martin Thomas wrote: > Netsurf 2.7 on Ubuntu 11.04 dies when I try to view the page. Netsurf 1.2 > doesn't show any tweets. It is called a Sanity Filter. Best wishes, Rick.
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| From | "David Holden" <SpamBin@apdl.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2011-08-05 06:11 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer |
| Message-ID | <9a1fs4F1cgU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #1342 |
On 5-Aug-2011, Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > On 04/08/2011 14:27, Martin Thomas wrote: > > > Netsurf 2.7 on Ubuntu 11.04 dies when I try to view the page. Netsurf > > 1.2 doesn't show any tweets. > > It is called a Sanity Filter. I thought that was the Sanity Clause. -- David Holden - APDL - <http://www.apdl.co.uk>
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| From | "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2011-08-05 10:05 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer |
| Message-ID | <51fde59911UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #1346 |
In article <9a1fs4F1cgU1@mid.individual.net>, David Holden <SpamBin@apdl.co.uk> wrote: > > > > It is called a Sanity Filter. > I thought that was the Sanity Clause. Christmas already? As they say on Face**ck, Like! John -- John Williams, Brittany, Northern France - no attachments to these addresses! Non-RISC OS posters change user to johnrwilliams or put 'risc' in subject! Who is John Williams? http://petit.four.free.fr/picindex/author/
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