Re: clib & RISC OS 4.39

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From	Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com>
Subject	Re: clib & RISC OS 4.39
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Date	Mon, 13 Aug 2012 15:00:59 +0100
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In article <52be0adc72chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net>,
   Chris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> wrote:
> In article <52bdc879a3cvjazz@waitrose.com>,
>    Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:

> > Done that. Mine looks thus...

> > System$Path :
> > Sys:420.,Sys:400.,Sys:370.,Sys:350.,Sys:310.,IDEFS::h-4.$.!BOOT.Resources.!System.

> > Notice it starts at Sys 400 even though I have a 500 directory. Is
> > that because I'm running 4.39 & the 500 directory would never be
> > needed?

> Well 420 actually.

Oops! Well spotted.

> When !System is first seen, it builds the sys
> paths. One of the first things it does is check the version of the
> utility module i.e. OS version. It won't include any dirs with 'name
> number' greater than the OS version.

Fine. I can see the logic in that.

> If you have a 500 directory, then at some point you have installed
> either stuff from RISC OS 5 itself, or an app that requires a RISC OS
> 5 version module if running on RISC OS 5 - 4.39 itself would never
> have created such a directory. 

> What modules are in it? 

CLib 5.56. Dunno how.
> In any case it will not do any harm, since RISC OS 4 will never see it.

I'll just expunge it then.

> > Neither does it end with !System.Modules dir  so presumably it will
> > never look there anyway. Curiouser & curiouser.

> Do not forget that System$Path is a path, to which is appended the
> directory name 'Modules' when loading a module. If you look at the
> last part of the path it is

> IDEFS::h-4.$.!BOOT.Resources.!System.

> If you add 'Modules' to that, you get the directory

> IDEFS::h-4.$.!BOOT.Resources.!System.Modules

> which is the one in question.

So is the machine "seeing" it or not?

> > I also have.....

> > IDEFS::h-4.$.!Boot.Resources.!System.Backup 

> > which has directories from 310 to 500 each of which has more
> > modules than the "normal" directories. I have not made this backup
> > so might it have been made when the machine was upgraded from 3.7
> > to 4.39?

> Well my Iyonix certainly has the backup directory there. It may be
> created by the Configure>Sysmerge tool, which may keep copies of the
> older versions when it upgrades !System. In the same way the Boot
> merge tool keeps a backup in !Boot.Backup.

That could well explain that.

Thanks for your help.

-- 
Chris Newman

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