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Re: clib & RISC OS 4.39

From Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com>
Subject Re: clib & RISC OS 4.39
Newsgroups comp.sys.acorn.misc
Date 2012-08-11 23:38 +0100
Message-ID <52bdc879a3cvjazz@waitrose.com> (permalink)
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In article <52bda2f156chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net>,
   Chris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> wrote:
> In article <52bd9fe31ccvjazz@waitrose.com>,
>    Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:
> > Well I never....  How is a chap supposed to know? In mine (although
> > as far as I know I didn't put them there) I have....

> You should compare the version numbers of the modules in the plain
> Modules dir with those in the NNN.Modules directories and if they are
> older or the same delete them. Verma may help you.

Done that (Although Verma didn't find them all - ABIMod; Colours for
instance). I've deleted the ones which are the same but kept the older ones
just in case I have any very old software which needs them, or can I presume
all the later versions are backwards compatible & I can safely ditch the old
ones?

> If you do (in a task window - Ctrl-F12) *show sys* (the trailing * is
> a wildcard) you should find an entry for System$Path which will look
> something like (depends on OS version)

Done that. Mine looks thus...

System$Path :
Sys:420.,Sys:400.,Sys:370.,Sys:350.,Sys:310.,IDEFS::h-4.$.!BOOT.Resources.!System.

Notice it starts at Sys 400 even though I have a 500 directory. Is that
because I'm running 4.39 & the 500 directory would never be needed?

> This is the order the OS looks for modules when loading them from
> system. It starts at the highest OS version, so that if the later OS
> needs a different version module than older OSs, it is loaded in
> preference. It works through the list of module directories until the
> module is found.

> The final entry, which is the !System.Modules dir, is looked at as a
> last resort. The default place for modules suitable for all flavours
> of OS should be 310.Modules.

Neither does it end with !System.Modules dir  so presumably it will never
look there anyway. Curiouser & curiouser.

I also have.....

IDEFS::h-4.$.!Boot.Resources.!System.Backup 

which has directories from 310 to 500 each of which has more modules than the
"normal" directories. I have not made this backup so might it have been made
when the machine was upgraded from 3.7 to 4.39?

Many thanks for your enlightenment so far.

-- 
Chris Newman

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clib & RISC OS 4.39 Alexander Ausserstorfer <bavariasound@chiemgau-net.de> - 2012-08-11 08:06 +0100
  Re: clib & RISC OS 4.39 "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-08-11 10:57 +0100
  Re: clib & RISC OS 4.39 Martin Wuerthner <spamtrap@mw-software.com> - 2012-08-11 13:19 +0200
    Re: clib & RISC OS 4.39 Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2012-08-11 15:06 +0100
      Re: clib & RISC OS 4.39 Chris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> - 2012-08-11 15:18 +0100
        Re: clib & RISC OS 4.39 Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2012-08-11 16:15 +0100
          Re: clib & RISC OS 4.39 Chris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> - 2012-08-11 16:48 +0100
            Re: clib & RISC OS 4.39 Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2012-08-11 23:38 +0100
              Re: clib & RISC OS 4.39 Chris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> - 2012-08-12 11:43 +0100
                Re: clib & RISC OS 4.39 Fred Bambrough <fred@[127.0.0.1]> - 2012-08-12 13:11 +0100
                Re: clib & RISC OS 4.39 Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2012-08-13 15:07 +0100
                Re: clib & RISC OS 4.39 Martin Wuerthner <spamtrap@mw-software.com> - 2012-08-15 14:28 +0200
                Re: clib & RISC OS 4.39 Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2012-08-15 23:35 +0100
                Re: clib & RISC OS 4.39 Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2012-08-16 00:12 +0100
                Re: clib & RISC OS 4.39 "David Holden" <SpamBin@apdl.co.uk> - 2012-08-16 08:12 +0000
                Re: clib & RISC OS 4.39 Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-08-16 10:41 +0100
                Re: clib & RISC OS 4.39 Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2012-08-17 00:24 +0100
                Re: clib & RISC OS 4.39 Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-08-17 12:53 +0100
                OT. Was: Re: clib & RISC OS 4.39 Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-08-18 19:08 +0100
                Re: clib & RISC OS 4.39 Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2012-08-18 22:25 +0100
                Re: clib & RISC OS 4.39 Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-08-19 12:30 +0100
                Re: clib & RISC OS 4.39 Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2012-08-17 00:17 +0100
                Re: clib & RISC OS 4.39 Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2012-08-17 21:06 +0100
                Re: clib & RISC OS 4.39 "David Holden" <SpamBin@apdl.co.uk> - 2012-08-18 06:01 +0000
                Re: clib & RISC OS 4.39 Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2012-08-17 00:13 +0100
                Re: clib & RISC OS 4.39 Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2012-08-13 15:00 +0100
                Re: clib & RISC OS 4.39 Chris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> - 2012-08-13 16:44 +0100
                Re: clib & RISC OS 4.39 Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2012-08-13 23:40 +0100
          Re: clib & RISC OS 4.39 Fred Bambrough <fred@[127.0.0.1]> - 2012-08-11 17:24 +0100
            Re: clib & RISC OS 4.39 Chris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> - 2012-08-11 18:43 +0100
            Re: clib & RISC OS 4.39 Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2012-08-11 23:00 +0100
              Re: clib & RISC OS 4.39 Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2012-08-11 23:40 +0100
                Re: clib & RISC OS 4.39 Chris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> - 2012-08-12 11:44 +0100
                Re: clib & RISC OS 4.39 Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2012-08-13 15:01 +0100
        Re: clib & RISC OS 4.39 Brian Jordan <brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> - 2012-08-12 00:48 +0100
          Re: clib & RISC OS 4.39 Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2012-08-12 09:20 +0100
          Re: clib & RISC OS 4.39 Chris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> - 2012-08-12 11:55 +0100
    Re: clib & RISC OS 4.39 Alexander Ausserstorfer <bavariasound@chiemgau-net.de> - 2012-08-13 06:18 +0000
      Re: clib & RISC OS 4.39 Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-08-13 07:48 +0100
        Re: clib & RISC OS 4.39 Alexander Ausserstorfer <bavariasound@chiemgau-net.de> - 2012-08-18 07:57 +0100

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