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Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++.

From Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.setup, comp.os.linux.advocacy, sci.physics
Subject Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++.
Date 2021-10-02 18:58 -0500
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On 10/1/2021 9:37 PM, rbowman wrote:
> On 10/01/2021 02:32 PM, Clutterfreak wrote:
>> On 9/30/2021 9:40 PM, rbowman wrote:
>>> On 09/30/2021 08:33 AM, chrisv wrote:
>>>> rbowman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think in FORTH & program in C/C++;
>>>>>> naturally, people freak out when they see my source code.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can believe that...  Reverse Polish Notation with Hungarian notation
>>>>> would be more cryptic than something was AES 256 encoding.
>>>>
>>>> Have you seen Relf's code?  It's intentionally cryptic.  It's
>>>> horrible.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I've seen enough terrible things in my life...  We had a programmer
>>> that fell in love with macros. There really wasn't any code there
>>> until you ran it through a compiler.
>>>
>>> I think it was Ritchie who said that allowing macros in the language
>>> was one of his worst mistakes. It was such an innocent little idea...
>>
>>
>> I did VBA programming for about two years using Excel to handle and
>> solve warehouse problems. I don't know if the "macro" you mentioned
>> means same thing as a macro in Excel VBA, but every now and then I put
>> that feature into pretty nice use. When things would get too complicated
>> to automate, I'd just do them live manually with macro recording on,
>> then would study the funky codes that were generated. I always found in
>> them nice good clues as how to handle those situations, and created
>> fully structured and high quality additions to my programs with comments
>> and all.
> 
> Not quite the same, I don't think but I don't know Excel. Supercalc was 
> bundled on the Osborne and I never figured out how to use it. Still 
> haven't figured out it's descendants.
> 
> I've come to loathe Excel though. Too many people use it as a set of 
> expandable pigeonholes as documentation that has nothing to do with the 
> original intent.
> 
> 
> 


The only reason I learned Excel was that we had to teach it in high 
school :) Even their math exercises included a lot of Excel use. I just 
blamed it on the times and followed the current.

But it is a useful general purpose tool for general people. For somewhat 
more demanding purposes like some of the inventory control needs one can 
automate a lot of stuff with its VBA. Excel itself is written in VBA.

For much more involved inventory control, Excel begins to be deficient 
and much more than just a VBA programmer is needed to code that in VBA. 
Companies don't do that. They go for SAP where it has combined solving 
complicated physics problems with much more mundane programming to 
generate any report you need no matter how involved. SAP is the best in 
the world for that reason.

But this fucking Chinese company would not take advantage of that. They 
were paranoid about SAP's state of the art features and had disabled it 
to near death. So they looked at my background and asked _me_ to write 
those difficult ones in VBA for them! Let me give you an example:

There's a flow of parts to and from a warehouse of course. Each part has 
a lifetime (goes unreliable after certain period of time sitting in the 
warehouse), a frequency of use (how often it leaves the warehouse), the 
volume each occupies, a weight (determining which racks and how high 
they should be stored), a value (determining where in the warehouse it 
is stored - a caged and locked area or in general area), an ETA 
(estimated time of arrival after ordered from suppliers), how often it 
gets lost or stolen (i.e. how often you need to count them and where 
they're stored), and so on and so on.

Now company has suffered great losses and lost great customers, and 
their warehouses have limits in capacity, so it is in dire need of 
knowing exactly when to order what part and in what quantities to cut 
all that losses to an absolute minimum, so they wouldn't face a 
situation where needed part is ordered but is "in transit", and never 
have to give the parts to salvage companies because they're old, or they 
go to pick it up from location and nothing is there (had not been cycle 
counted with enough frequency) etc, and etc. And we're talking about 
hundreds of millions of dollars here.

Each minute counts. Each second is gold.

This is the gist of just _one_ of the problems that any warehouse in the 
world has. The solution for it goes beyond abilities of just a 
programmer. You actually need physicists to do it. Even "Engineers" will 
fuck it up for you topped with a confident smile. And it won't be about 
a war that's being fought so you'd take them to a wall and shoot them 
for their incompetence and fraudulent claims causing you grief.

So companies buy SAP licenses with such features added and turned on in 
them, and get same results without hiring a physicist for their 
warehouses! They do the logical thing to do.

Doing it with "Excel" is ridiculous. It can be done, I did it and made a 
lot of money doing it. But that was not the right thing to do cause it 
was already done perfectly well in SAP. For some reason obscure to me, 
they just had to do the whole thing independent of their database system 
in China. Each warehouse did it locally and flow of information was 
always one-way. From company to their database. Never the opposite.




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                Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-10-03 18:33 -0500
                Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 04:54 +0000
                Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 01:05 -0500
                Seattle hates smokers with a deep passion. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-03 09:09 -0700
                Re: Seattle hates smokers with a deep passion. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-03 12:18 -0600
                Seattle's not big on tolerance. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-03 11:38 -0700
                Re: Seattle hates smokers with a deep passion. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 19:18 +0000
                Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-03 12:03 -0600
                Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 21:46 -0500
                Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-03 11:55 -0600
                Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-03 11:50 +0100
                Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 10:55 +0000
                TFZ is better then Face-To-Face sex. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-03 09:41 -0700
                Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-03 17:31 +0000
                Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-05 19:01 -0500
                Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 04:49 +0000
                Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-10-03 00:15 -0500
                Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 10:34 +0000
                Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-10-03 10:01 -0500
                Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 19:10 +0000
                Life is everything, yet nothing. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-03 12:17 -0700
                Re: Life is everything, yet nothing. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 20:00 +0000
                Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-10-03 18:30 -0500
                Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 04:52 +0000
                Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-03 11:56 +0100
                Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-10-03 10:14 -0500
                Re: People like me, who work 30 years on a job, aren't cheating. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 13:33 -0500
                The loans-to-deposits ratio is insane, nothing a banker would want. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-03 11:56 -0700
                Re: People like me, who work 30 years on a job, aren't cheating. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-03 19:55 -0600
                Re: "Permies" aren't script kiddies. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-02 17:09 +0000
                Re: "Permies" aren't script kiddies. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 11:35 -0600
                My work got done joyously. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-02 11:28 -0700
                Re: My work got done joyously. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 01:31 +0000
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-01 20:44 -0600
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-02 09:50 +0100
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 12:55 -0600
                Recursion makes good algorithms & bad implementations. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-02 12:15 -0700
                Re: Recursion makes good algorithms & bad implementations. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 01:33 +0000
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-02 17:35 -0500
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 22:08 -0600
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 00:12 -0500
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-03 11:47 +0100
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-03 11:49 -0600
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 20:02 -0500
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-03 19:47 -0600
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 23:50 -0500
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-04 07:54 -0600
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 00:08 -0500
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 05:12 +0000
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 01:51 -0500
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 06:56 +0000
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 13:28 -0500
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 20:18 +0000
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-04 07:59 -0600
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 13:15 -0500
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-01 20:37 -0600
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-02 18:58 -0500
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-09-30 18:26 +0000
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-30 20:57 -0600
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-01 17:43 +0000
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-01 18:19 +0000
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-01 19:22 +0100
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-01 18:37 +0000
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-01 20:16 -0600
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-02 09:44 +0100
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-02 17:09 +0000
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 12:49 -0600
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-30 09:38 -0500
                10 instances of my "C/C++ console" running simultaneously. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-09-30 07:51 -0700
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-30 10:08 -0500
                Thunderbird can be made to run "right" ( however you want it ). Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-09-30 08:03 -0700
                Re: Thunderbird can be made to run "right" ( however you want it ). Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-30 10:14 -0500
                4Re: 1I 5think 2in 5FORTH 1& 7progr 2in 6C/C++ Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2021-09-30 08:12 -0700
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-09-30 18:25 +0000
                FORTH, C & C++, in that order, have advantages. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-09-30 16:16 -0700
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-30 21:18 -0600
                Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-29 08:07 -0600
                Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-29 15:26 +0100
                Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-29 19:59 -0600
                Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-30 12:04 +0100
                Re: Linux Crashing chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2021-09-29 10:57 -0500
                Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-29 12:01 -0500
                Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-29 20:04 +0100
                Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-29 15:03 -0500
                Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-29 20:48 -0600
                Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-29 20:39 -0600
                Re: Linux Crashing chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2021-09-29 14:11 -0500
                Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-29 20:29 +0100
                Re: Linux Crashing chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2021-09-29 17:56 -0500
                Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-29 21:00 -0600
                Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-30 12:03 +0100
                Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-30 08:06 -0600
                Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-30 20:23 +0100
                Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-30 20:11 -0600
                Re: Linux Crashing Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-01 17:43 +0000
                Re: Linux Crashing Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-01 18:21 +0000
                Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-01 20:13 -0600
                Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-02 09:42 +0100
                Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 12:46 -0600
                while(1) Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-02 11:56 -0700
                Re: Linux Crashing Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-02 17:09 +0000
                Re: Linux Crashing Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-02 14:51 -0400
                Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 21:22 -0600
                Re: Linux Crashing Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-03 17:31 +0000
                Re: Linux Crashing Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-02 15:07 -0400
                Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-29 20:27 -0600
                Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-29 20:14 -0600
                Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-29 08:02 -0600
                Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-29 15:09 +0100
                Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-29 19:48 -0600
                Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-29 00:37 -0500
                Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-29 11:57 +0100
                Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-29 11:55 +0100
                Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-29 11:55 +0100
                Re: Linux Crashing chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2021-09-29 06:25 -0500
                Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-29 11:50 -0500
                Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-29 19:40 -0600
                Re: Linux Crashing Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-09-30 01:43 +0000
                Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-30 07:48 -0600
                Re: Linux Crashing The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-09-29 23:53 -0700
                Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-30 12:06 +0100
              Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-28 07:49 -0600
                Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-28 11:37 -0500
  Re: Linux Crashing RabidHussar <rabid@huss.ar> - 2021-09-27 09:36 -0400
  Re: Linux Crashing RabidHussar <rabid@huss.ar> - 2021-09-27 09:37 -0400
  Re: Linux Crashing chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2021-09-27 09:25 -0500
  Re: Linux Crashing The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-09-27 09:50 -0700
    Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-27 18:33 +0100
      Re: Linux Crashing The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-09-27 11:55 -0700
        Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-27 15:43 -0500
          Re: Linux Crashing The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-09-27 14:51 -0700
            Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-27 17:05 -0500
      Re: Linux Crashing Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-27 21:31 +0100
        Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-28 12:57 +0100
          Re: Linux Crashing Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-09-28 19:03 +0000
      Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-27 15:38 -0500
        Re: Linux Crashing RabidHussar <rabid@huss.ar> - 2021-09-27 21:44 -0400
          Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-27 22:50 -0500
        Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-28 13:00 +0100
      Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-27 20:27 -0600
        Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-27 23:22 -0500
          Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-28 07:42 -0600
  Re: Linux Crashing Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@gmail.com> - 2021-09-28 05:21 +0000

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