Re: Linux Crashing

From	Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.setup, comp.os.linux.advocacy, sci.physics
Subject	Re: Linux Crashing
Date	2021-09-27 15:38 -0500
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On 9/27/2021 12:33 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 27/09/2021 17:50, The Starmaker wrote:
>> Clutterfreak wrote:
>>>
>>> I've installed Linux Mint XFCE on my desktop but it crashes less than
>>> one minute after each booting.
>>>
>>> Processor: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU           X5675  @ 3.07GHz   3.06 GHz
>>
>> Xeon???? garbage.
>>
> It works. It shouldn't crash.
> 
> Online docs say Xeon should work, but is an unusual choice for a desktop.
> 
> Takes ECC RAM?
> 
> Online docs stay X5675 was 2011 chip, now discontinued, so this is no 
> spanking new computer. It's old and may well have 'issues'.
> 
> It was in its day a $1400 CPU. capable of addressing over 200GB of RAM Wow!
> 
> I am with clutterfreak. If someone handed me one of those i'd want to 
> get it working as well.
> 
> My guess is he has an old server that's been tossed out because it no 
> longer works and is too old to be worth fixing.
> 
> Experience suggest its got dead ram or an iffy processor (if the fan has 
> failed they can cook) or another chip has failed.
> 
> Mmm I never thought of a dead  fan. I had a sparc sent in that used to 
> fail after 20 minutes regular as clockwork, but always booted the next 
> morning. CPU fan had died. Got another one sent in... fan had died but 
> so too had the CPU...wasn't really worth fixing. stripped out the ram 
> and disk and put it in a new one and charged the customer what it cost...
> 
> So Mr Clutterfreak
> Tell us more about where this came from and what state it is in.
> Does the CPU fan shift air?
> Does it pass memtest 86?
> Has it got the correct RAM in it?
> 
> The good news is that if you find and fix the hardware problem you may 
> well find the installed linux will then run just fine
> 
> but if the mb or cpu have gone dead, toss it.
> 

Problem was in HD. I replaced it with my older one with win10 on it and 
it has started to work fine. All memory sticks (3 sticks of 8g each) 
work without any problems, and they are error correcting ones.

It had win10 on it when I got the computer from craigslist ($75). I kept 
using it as it was until yesterday morning when it started to make 
beeping sounds at turn on but with some tries it would boot. Then last 
night it wouldn't completely boot anymore but I had taken all my 
programs and stuff off the computer a few hours earlier (just a few 
folders), so I decided to reinstall the OS to see if that helps, and 
went for Linux this time cause I don't have a win10 disk. I downloaded 
mint XFCE and checksumed it against the one on server, then burnt the 
iso and again checked for possible errors, then installed it. It 
installed fine but never would proceed past a few tens of seconds after 
booting was complete.

The HD I placed in it is half the capacity of the original but the 
present 500G is more than I ever need on this computer. I use it just 
for learning programming and writing hobby programs, mostly to solve 
some physics question that would require computation.

I intend to keep the win10. Will perhaps do something else later with 
the Linux mint iso disk with one of my other computers.

Thanks again for all the information you provided.

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                Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-05 19:01 -0500
                Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 04:49 +0000
                Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-10-03 00:15 -0500
                Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 10:34 +0000
                Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-10-03 10:01 -0500
                Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 19:10 +0000
                Life is everything, yet nothing. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-03 12:17 -0700
                Re: Life is everything, yet nothing. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 20:00 +0000
                Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-10-03 18:30 -0500
                Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 04:52 +0000
                Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-03 11:56 +0100
                Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-10-03 10:14 -0500
                Re: People like me, who work 30 years on a job, aren't cheating. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 13:33 -0500
                The loans-to-deposits ratio is insane, nothing a banker would want. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-03 11:56 -0700
                Re: People like me, who work 30 years on a job, aren't cheating. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-03 19:55 -0600
                Re: "Permies" aren't script kiddies. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-02 17:09 +0000
                Re: "Permies" aren't script kiddies. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 11:35 -0600
                My work got done joyously. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-02 11:28 -0700
                Re: My work got done joyously. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 01:31 +0000
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-01 20:44 -0600
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-02 09:50 +0100
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 12:55 -0600
                Recursion makes good algorithms & bad implementations. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-02 12:15 -0700
                Re: Recursion makes good algorithms & bad implementations. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 01:33 +0000
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-02 17:35 -0500
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 22:08 -0600
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 00:12 -0500
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-03 11:47 +0100
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-03 11:49 -0600
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 20:02 -0500
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-03 19:47 -0600
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 23:50 -0500
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-04 07:54 -0600
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 00:08 -0500
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 05:12 +0000
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 01:51 -0500
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 06:56 +0000
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 13:28 -0500
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 20:18 +0000
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-04 07:59 -0600
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 13:15 -0500
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-01 20:37 -0600
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-02 18:58 -0500
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-09-30 18:26 +0000
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-30 20:57 -0600
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-01 17:43 +0000
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-01 18:19 +0000
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-01 19:22 +0100
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-01 18:37 +0000
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-01 20:16 -0600
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-02 09:44 +0100
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-02 17:09 +0000
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 12:49 -0600
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-30 09:38 -0500
                10 instances of my "C/C++ console" running simultaneously. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-09-30 07:51 -0700
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-30 10:08 -0500
                Thunderbird can be made to run "right" ( however you want it ). Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-09-30 08:03 -0700
                Re: Thunderbird can be made to run "right" ( however you want it ). Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-30 10:14 -0500
                4Re: 1I 5think 2in 5FORTH 1& 7progr 2in 6C/C++ Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2021-09-30 08:12 -0700
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-09-30 18:25 +0000
                FORTH, C & C++, in that order, have advantages. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-09-30 16:16 -0700
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-30 21:18 -0600
                Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-29 08:07 -0600
                Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-29 15:26 +0100
                Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-29 19:59 -0600
                Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-30 12:04 +0100
                Re: Linux Crashing chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2021-09-29 10:57 -0500
                Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-29 12:01 -0500
                Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-29 20:04 +0100
                Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-29 15:03 -0500
                Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-29 20:48 -0600
                Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-29 20:39 -0600
                Re: Linux Crashing chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2021-09-29 14:11 -0500
                Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-29 20:29 +0100
                Re: Linux Crashing chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2021-09-29 17:56 -0500
                Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-29 21:00 -0600
                Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-30 12:03 +0100
                Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-30 08:06 -0600
                Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-30 20:23 +0100
                Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-30 20:11 -0600
                Re: Linux Crashing Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-01 17:43 +0000
                Re: Linux Crashing Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-01 18:21 +0000
                Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-01 20:13 -0600
                Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-02 09:42 +0100
                Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 12:46 -0600
                while(1) Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-02 11:56 -0700
                Re: Linux Crashing Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-02 17:09 +0000
                Re: Linux Crashing Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-02 14:51 -0400
                Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 21:22 -0600
                Re: Linux Crashing Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-03 17:31 +0000
                Re: Linux Crashing Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-02 15:07 -0400
                Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-29 20:27 -0600
                Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-29 20:14 -0600
                Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-29 08:02 -0600
                Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-29 15:09 +0100
                Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-29 19:48 -0600
                Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-29 00:37 -0500
                Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-29 11:57 +0100
                Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-29 11:55 +0100
                Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-29 11:55 +0100
                Re: Linux Crashing chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2021-09-29 06:25 -0500
                Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-29 11:50 -0500
                Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-29 19:40 -0600
                Re: Linux Crashing Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-09-30 01:43 +0000
                Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-30 07:48 -0600
                Re: Linux Crashing The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-09-29 23:53 -0700
                Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-30 12:06 +0100
              Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-28 07:49 -0600
                Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-28 11:37 -0500
  Re: Linux Crashing RabidHussar <rabid@huss.ar> - 2021-09-27 09:36 -0400
  Re: Linux Crashing RabidHussar <rabid@huss.ar> - 2021-09-27 09:37 -0400
  Re: Linux Crashing chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2021-09-27 09:25 -0500
  Re: Linux Crashing The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-09-27 09:50 -0700
    Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-27 18:33 +0100
      Re: Linux Crashing The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-09-27 11:55 -0700
        Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-27 15:43 -0500
          Re: Linux Crashing The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-09-27 14:51 -0700
            Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-27 17:05 -0500
      Re: Linux Crashing Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-27 21:31 +0100
        Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-28 12:57 +0100
          Re: Linux Crashing Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-09-28 19:03 +0000
      Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-27 15:38 -0500
        Re: Linux Crashing RabidHussar <rabid@huss.ar> - 2021-09-27 21:44 -0400
          Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-27 22:50 -0500
        Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-28 13:00 +0100
      Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-27 20:27 -0600
        Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-27 23:22 -0500
          Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-28 07:42 -0600
  Re: Linux Crashing Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@gmail.com> - 2021-09-28 05:21 +0000

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