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Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++.

From Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.setup, comp.os.linux.advocacy, sci.physics
Subject Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++.
Date 2021-10-02 11:11 -0500
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On 10/2/2021 3:15 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 01/10/2021 22:28, Clutterfreak wrote:
>> On 10/1/2021 4:06 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> On 01/10/2021 21:51, Clutterfreak wrote:
>>>> Ok I just looked it up and remembered that funky feature in C 
>>>> language that's referred as "macro." It is of course different from 
>>>> what I was talking about above.
>>>>
>>> I think you could probably end up with the same machine code using 
>>> inline subroutines these days
>>>
>>>> And it is and was so useless and silly that I never ever went back 
>>>> to it after first time I understood what it was 30 years back. 
>>>> Totally unnecessary along with many other features in every 
>>>> programming language.
>>>
>>> Its no worse than a subroutine really
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Not in my opinion (or experience). Subroutines are logical blocks 
>> complete in themselves, so you can handle them whole cause you know 
>> what they're doing. C macros are chuncks of codes not necessarily 
>> complete and whole logically. I guess they're to save typing! If you 
>> take a chunk of code out of its logically whole context, and place 
>> some name for it there instead, that context will get logically 
>> defective. It won't be understood when looked at.
>>
> Well you can write bad shit any way you like.
> 
> For example if I have a routine more than a page long, *I* cant read it 
> even if I wrote it!
> 
> I will break it down into subroutines wherever possible. So that the 
> flow of tha main code and its logic inst cluttered up with blocks 
> containing code that does something specific and in detail  but whose 
> logic is nothing to do with the main flow.
> 
> E.g/
> 
> If(emergency())
>      {
>      stopTheFuckingCar();
>      }
> else    {
>      carryOnDriving();
>      }
> 
> is perfectly comprehensible at the logical level leaving the details of 
> what constitutes an emergency,  carrying on driving or stopping the 
> fucking car to be placed elsewhere, and likewise  stopping the car might 
> involve many complex actions of brakes, steering and throttle, the 
> details of which don't belong there, but at a level yet further down.
> 
> If you are worried about speed, code them as inline.
> 
> First rule is to get a clean piece of comprehensible code running, and 
> only tune it if there is a need.
> 
> 
> 

You're just explaining how well subroutines can be used instead of 
resorting to macros. That's what I was trying to point out as well.

Now let's take a look at the example you brought, this time using macros :)

Here's the simple, logically whole, nice code you wrote above but using 
the macro feature instead:

If_Jeff_farted_close_your_nose_to_avoid_detecting_fermented_cheese_sticks_gas


Well? Can you see in it the correct logic you followed in your code 
using subroutines? It is exactly your code! The same code you wrote 
above. But I only see in it another instance of a logical thought being 
perhaps "coded."

So with macros the code needs to be deciphered first. You'll have to go 
look at your preprocessor directives elsewhere in the program to 
decipher it.


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                TFZ is better then Face-To-Face sex. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-03 09:41 -0700
                Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-03 17:31 +0000
                Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-05 19:01 -0500
                Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 04:49 +0000
                Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-10-03 00:15 -0500
                Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 10:34 +0000
                Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-10-03 10:01 -0500
                Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 19:10 +0000
                Life is everything, yet nothing. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-03 12:17 -0700
                Re: Life is everything, yet nothing. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 20:00 +0000
                Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-10-03 18:30 -0500
                Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 04:52 +0000
                Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-03 11:56 +0100
                Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-10-03 10:14 -0500
                Re: People like me, who work 30 years on a job, aren't cheating. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 13:33 -0500
                The loans-to-deposits ratio is insane, nothing a banker would want. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-03 11:56 -0700
                Re: People like me, who work 30 years on a job, aren't cheating. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-03 19:55 -0600
                Re: "Permies" aren't script kiddies. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-02 17:09 +0000
                Re: "Permies" aren't script kiddies. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 11:35 -0600
                My work got done joyously. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-02 11:28 -0700
                Re: My work got done joyously. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 01:31 +0000
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-01 20:44 -0600
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-02 09:50 +0100
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 12:55 -0600
                Recursion makes good algorithms & bad implementations. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-02 12:15 -0700
                Re: Recursion makes good algorithms & bad implementations. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 01:33 +0000
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-02 17:35 -0500
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 22:08 -0600
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 00:12 -0500
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-03 11:47 +0100
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-03 11:49 -0600
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 20:02 -0500
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-03 19:47 -0600
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 23:50 -0500
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-04 07:54 -0600
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 00:08 -0500
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 05:12 +0000
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 01:51 -0500
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 06:56 +0000
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 13:28 -0500
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 20:18 +0000
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-04 07:59 -0600
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 13:15 -0500
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-01 20:37 -0600
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-02 18:58 -0500
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-09-30 18:26 +0000
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-30 20:57 -0600
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-01 17:43 +0000
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-01 18:19 +0000
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-01 19:22 +0100
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-01 18:37 +0000
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-01 20:16 -0600
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-02 09:44 +0100
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-02 17:09 +0000
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 12:49 -0600
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-30 09:38 -0500
                10 instances of my "C/C++ console" running simultaneously. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-09-30 07:51 -0700
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-30 10:08 -0500
                Thunderbird can be made to run "right" ( however you want it ). Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-09-30 08:03 -0700
                Re: Thunderbird can be made to run "right" ( however you want it ). Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-30 10:14 -0500
                4Re: 1I 5think 2in 5FORTH 1& 7progr 2in 6C/C++ Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2021-09-30 08:12 -0700
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-09-30 18:25 +0000
                FORTH, C & C++, in that order, have advantages. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-09-30 16:16 -0700
                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-30 21:18 -0600
                Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-29 08:07 -0600
                Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-29 15:26 +0100
                Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-29 19:59 -0600
                Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-30 12:04 +0100
                Re: Linux Crashing chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2021-09-29 10:57 -0500
                Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-29 12:01 -0500
                Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-29 20:04 +0100
                Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-29 15:03 -0500
                Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-29 20:48 -0600
                Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-29 20:39 -0600
                Re: Linux Crashing chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2021-09-29 14:11 -0500
                Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-29 20:29 +0100
                Re: Linux Crashing chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2021-09-29 17:56 -0500
                Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-29 21:00 -0600
                Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-30 12:03 +0100
                Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-30 08:06 -0600
                Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-30 20:23 +0100
                Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-30 20:11 -0600
                Re: Linux Crashing Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-01 17:43 +0000
                Re: Linux Crashing Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-01 18:21 +0000
                Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-01 20:13 -0600
                Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-02 09:42 +0100
                Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 12:46 -0600
                while(1) Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-02 11:56 -0700
                Re: Linux Crashing Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-02 17:09 +0000
                Re: Linux Crashing Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-02 14:51 -0400
                Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 21:22 -0600
                Re: Linux Crashing Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-03 17:31 +0000
                Re: Linux Crashing Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-02 15:07 -0400
                Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-29 20:27 -0600
                Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-29 20:14 -0600
                Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-29 08:02 -0600
                Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-29 15:09 +0100
                Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-29 19:48 -0600
                Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-29 00:37 -0500
                Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-29 11:57 +0100
                Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-29 11:55 +0100
                Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-29 11:55 +0100
                Re: Linux Crashing chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2021-09-29 06:25 -0500
                Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-29 11:50 -0500
                Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-29 19:40 -0600
                Re: Linux Crashing Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-09-30 01:43 +0000
                Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-30 07:48 -0600
                Re: Linux Crashing The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-09-29 23:53 -0700
                Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-30 12:06 +0100
              Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-28 07:49 -0600
                Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-28 11:37 -0500
  Re: Linux Crashing RabidHussar <rabid@huss.ar> - 2021-09-27 09:36 -0400
  Re: Linux Crashing RabidHussar <rabid@huss.ar> - 2021-09-27 09:37 -0400
  Re: Linux Crashing chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2021-09-27 09:25 -0500
  Re: Linux Crashing The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-09-27 09:50 -0700
    Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-27 18:33 +0100
      Re: Linux Crashing The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-09-27 11:55 -0700
        Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-27 15:43 -0500
          Re: Linux Crashing The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-09-27 14:51 -0700
            Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-27 17:05 -0500
      Re: Linux Crashing Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-27 21:31 +0100
        Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-28 12:57 +0100
          Re: Linux Crashing Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-09-28 19:03 +0000
      Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-27 15:38 -0500
        Re: Linux Crashing RabidHussar <rabid@huss.ar> - 2021-09-27 21:44 -0400
          Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-27 22:50 -0500
        Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-28 13:00 +0100
      Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-27 20:27 -0600
        Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-27 23:22 -0500
          Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-28 07:42 -0600
  Re: Linux Crashing Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@gmail.com> - 2021-09-28 05:21 +0000

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