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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.misc |
| Subject | Re: [OT] Copies of identification documents |
| Date | 2026-06-04 20:16 +0200 |
| Organization | Tebibyte_Retro_Gaming |
| Message-ID | <v0s8fmxgq7.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> (permalink) |
| References | (10 earlier) <10ugghl$2utt1$1@dont-email.me> <20260519170444@news.eternal-september.org> <10ujejs$cfmj$1@news1.tnib.de> <fch0emx7fe.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <10vsbhb$ftv3$3@dont-email.me> |
On 2026-06-04 19:10, Nuno Silva wrote: > On 2026-05-20, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> On 2026-05-20 06:51, Marc Haber wrote: >>> Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> wrote: >>>> When I said "internet" I meant "internet", to the point where >>>> you need to provide government-issued ID just to connect in >>>> the first place. I have no doubt that is the long term goal. >>> >>> For a residential connection, the provider has your street address and >>> knows in which apartment your circuit ends. For a wireless connection, >>> you need to supply ID¹. >>> >>> Greetings >>> Marc >>> >>> >>> ¹ in Germany that is already the case, in the US the providers won't >>> give you a number you can use for outgoing calls if you don't provide >>> ID². >>> ² which is a showstopper for a German since we're only allowed to >>> provide scans/copies of our government ID that are clearly marked as >>> copies. We're also allowed to blacken out things like the id number >>> and the machine readable zone, which causes US phone providers to >>> reject that ID. >> >> In Spain it is now illegal to ask for a full photograph or copy of the >> ID card. However, the user can do it. However_2 the recipient should >> reject it, because someone could sue and win because because asking >> for or keeping a full copy violates the GPDR. > > Do you want to laugh? Cross the border to south/west. The .pt law > forbiding the reproduction is only if done "without consent", cue a > possible gray area where some may claim you have to do so in order to > get access to some service. Heh. > > Do you want to laugh even harder? A topic during elections tends to be > the presence or absence of such a copy in postal vote, something which > really shouldn't be legal. Once upon a time, parties agreed to consider > valid ballots sent without such a copy, but one party later backed down, > and then moved to declare vote counts invalid because such ballots were > included. I don't think in Spain it is required to include such a copy. I understand the post office "official" (although the post office is now a private company, not a state service) verifies the identity of the voter. > > Because, for obvious reasons, ballots are not kept together with said > copies, by asking to have the affected ballots invalidated, they > effectively forced a new election in Europe, and one which couldn't be > done in a shorter time frame, given postal vote. In a grand total of > [checks notes] two seats up for election in that circle, that party lost > the one they seemed poised to possibly get, and delayed the election by > almost two months. > Uff. > <https://enwp.org/2022_Portuguese_legislative_election#Overseas_ballots_controversy> > > > This probably highlights the silliness of the law. You can't copy > portuguese ID documents de jure? But de jure you also have to copy them > to vote from abroad... Excuse me while I go scream into a void. > > > Hey, at least this time the provided return envelopes had the country > name in the return address? Once I knew most of the regulation, because I was randomly selected for elections "officer" twice. But I have forgotten most of it. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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Re: Linux to be illegal in California? Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.invalid> - 2026-05-18 12:44 +0000
Re: Linux to be illegal in California? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-05-16 20:40 +0000
Re: Linux to be illegal in California? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-16 23:09 +0200
Re: Linux to be illegal in California? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-16 21:27 +0000
Re: Linux to be illegal in California? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-16 22:14 +0200
Re: Linux to be illegal in California? Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.invalid> - 2026-05-18 12:37 +0000
Re: Linux to be illegal in California? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-18 13:48 +0100
Re: Linux to be illegal in California? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-18 18:09 +0200
Re: Linux to be illegal in California? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-18 16:14 +0000
Re: Linux to be illegal in California? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-19 02:07 +0000
Re: Linux to be illegal in California? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-19 04:52 +0000
Re: Linux to be illegal in California? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-19 12:52 +0100
Re: Linux to be illegal in California? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-16 21:16 +0000
Re: Linux to be illegal in California? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-15 22:54 +0200
Re: Linux to be illegal in California? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-15 23:56 -0400
Re: Linux to be illegal in California? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-16 08:47 +0200
Re: Linux to be illegal in California? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-16 08:11 +0000
Re: Linux to be illegal in California? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-16 11:24 +0200
Re: Linux to be illegal in California? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-05-16 20:15 +0200
Re: Linux to be illegal in California? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-16 22:05 +0200
Re: Linux to be illegal in California? Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2026-05-16 22:24 +0000
Re: Linux to be illegal in California? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-05-16 16:21 -0700
Re: Linux to be illegal in California? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-16 23:38 -0400
Re: Linux to be illegal in California? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-13 12:44 +0100
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