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Re: Linux to be illegal in California?

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On 2026-05-16 11:29, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
> Le 16-05-2026, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> a écrit :
>> On 2026-05-15 22:29, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>>> Le 13-05-2026, John McCue <jmclnx@gmail.com.invalid> a écrit :
>>>> I heard systemd added an optional age field a
>>>> specific distro can force upon its use on their users.
>>>
>>> I read things about that, but nothing technical, only rhetorical so I
>>> didn't took care of it because:
>>> - The principle is stupid, the issue is about education. If people can't
>>>     be educated when they are child or later, then one can't protect them
>>>     from themselves forever.
>>> - I really like to know how a distro would be able to force age
>>>     verification on my computer. I mean, it's Linux, it's FOSS and
>>>     everything, it's not Windows or Apple. So what could they do to stop
>>>     me to revert any option they put in place?
>>>
>>
>> No, the real issue is complying with the law. It does not matter if we
>> agree with it or not.
> 
> Except that we are speaking about agreeing with California law when I'm
> neither a Californian nor living there. So if the distribution provides
> a way to enforce Californian law, as a french living in France, I have
> no obligation, neither moral nor legal, to follow it.

You still have to abide by a law, the French law in your case. And the 
Linux distribution you have must include whatever is needed to abide by 
all the laws in the world, including the Californian law (and the French 
law). The system has to know the country of the user, and then, select 
the bunch of laws for that country.

> 
>> It does not matter if we think it is about education.
> 
> For now, there is nothing in the law about that in France. So I don't
> care about the rhetorical discussions about it because I consider the
> principle being stupid.
> 
>> So now the legal teams in distributions are analyzing the several laws
>> in the world and trying to then tell the developers and system designers
>> what to do next.
> 
> For now, what I hear is most about trying to know how to evolve the law
> to take social media into account because it's not covered. Unlike porn,
> alcohol, drugs or cigarettes.
> 


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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