Re: Linux to be illegal in California?

From	"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc
Subject	Re: Linux to be illegal in California?
Date	2026-05-21 10:26 +0200
Organization	Tebibyte_Retro_Gaming
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On 2026-05-21 09:56, Nuno Silva wrote:
> On 2026-05-21, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> 
>> On 2026-05-21 04:53, Roger Blake wrote:
>>> On 2026-05-20, Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> wrote:
>>>> For a residential connection, the provider has your street address and
>>>> knows in which apartment your circuit ends. For a wireless connection,
>>>> you need to supply ID¹.
>>>
>>> It is possible, for example, to obtain a pay-as-you-go phone
>>> without ID and use it for cellular internet connection. Typically
>>> referred to as a "burner" phone. I have one as a backup phone
>>> and have not given any kind of identification. Renewal cards
>>> can be purchased for cash in many locations.
>>
>> As part of the war on terrorism following the terrorist attack on the
>> NY towers, and later on the Atocha trains in Spain, we can not get a
>> SIM card without submitting a proper ID document. Means national ID
>> document for us, a passport for foreigners. Although I have seen
>> visitors use their driving license.
> 
> I think in Portugal the situation has been similar at least to some
> extent, I'm not sure where or when is it required, but they will ask for
> at least tax ID at some point.
> 
> Usually movie/TV plots of "but it's a prepaid, we don't know who owns
> it" feel a bit weird because of this, whether it's like that or not
> really depends on the country. And on time, I guess.

Exactly.

Here they said it was a USA requirement, but then the USA doesn't demand 
an ID of their citizens.

> 
>>> For most WiFi connections at places like coffee shops etc.
>>> it is not necessary to provide ID, only the password to
>>> connect. In some cases that leads to a page where one is
>>> asked to provide information but ID is not asked for and
>>> the information usually not checked.
>>>
>>> So far we are not a "Your papers please" type country, though
>>> there are certainly those who would like it to be so. (As I
>>> recall Germany went through a period where that was the rule.)
> 
> These days, even where you're not expected to register, you may be
> required to run a sufficiently advanced browser just to pass the
> "welcome" or "EULA" screen of the shop WLAN AP... that is the current
> state of the web, let's create needless obstacles left and right :-)
> 


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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                [OT] Re: Linux to be illegal in California? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-20 08:57 +0100
                Re: Linux to be illegal in California? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-20 08:54 +0100
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                Re: Linux to be illegal in California? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-21 08:46 +0200
                Re: Linux to be illegal in California? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-21 08:56 +0100
                Re: Linux to be illegal in California? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-21 10:26 +0200
                Re: Linux to be illegal in California? Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2026-05-21 13:48 +0000
                Re: Linux to be illegal in California? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-05-21 11:12 +0200
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