Re: Linux to be illegal in California?

From	Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc
Subject	Re: Linux to be illegal in California?
Date	2026-05-18 12:44 +0000
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On 2026-05-16, Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 5/16/26 05:32, Borax Man wrote:
>> On 2026-05-16, Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote:
>>> Le 16-05-2026, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> a écrit :
>>>> On 2026-05-15 22:29, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>>>>> Le 13-05-2026, John McCue <jmclnx@gmail.com.invalid> a écrit :
>>>>>> I heard systemd added an optional age field a
>>>>>> specific distro can force upon its use on their users.
>>>>>
>>>>> I read things about that, but nothing technical, only rhetorical so I
>>>>> didn't took care of it because:
>>>>> - The principle is stupid, the issue is about education. If people can't
>>>>>     be educated when they are child or later, then one can't protect them
>>>>>     from themselves forever.
>>>>> - I really like to know how a distro would be able to force age
>>>>>     verification on my computer. I mean, it's Linux, it's FOSS and
>>>>>     everything, it's not Windows or Apple. So what could they do to stop
>>>>>     me to revert any option they put in place?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No, the real issue is complying with the law. It does not matter if we
>>>> agree with it or not.
>>>
>>> Except that we are speaking about agreeing with California law when I'm
>>> neither a Californian nor living there. So if the distribution provides
>>> a way to enforce Californian law, as a french living in France, I have
>>> no obligation, neither moral nor legal, to follow it.
>>>
>>>> It does not matter if we think it is about education.
>>>
>>> For now, there is nothing in the law about that in France. So I don't
>>> care about the rhetorical discussions about it because I consider the
>>> principle being stupid.
>>>
>>>> So now the legal teams in distributions are analyzing the several laws
>>>> in the world and trying to then tell the developers and system designers
>>>> what to do next.
>>>
>>> For now, what I hear is most about trying to know how to evolve the law
>>> to take social media into account because it's not covered. Unlike porn,
>>> alcohol, drugs or cigarettes.
>>>
>> 
>> Californians seem to think the entire world is theirs.  I think they
>> don't realise there are other places where they can do what they want,
>> and don't have to follow their insane lead.
>
> 	No Californians do not think that the entire world is theirs.  The
> Legislature though is not technically oriented and the big actors on
> the Internet Stage do not want to assume responsibility for their content.
>

>> 
>> The problem is, that apps and platforms DO comply, however alternatives
>> always exist, and FOSS will remain an alternative.
>
> 	We in California who use Open Source and happen to have
> gotten here before all the places were taken are a bit snotty about
> our good luck.  I grew up in a different California and Nevada than
> are currently available but still I found a place to be here in
> San Francisco for the last 59 years so I live in a place where the
> skies may be cloudy and it can rain a lot but the wind off the
> Pacific blows the clouds away and dries the streets. Unless it
> is a wind from the land which is even dryer usually.  So dry that
> it starts fires in the tatty dried grass covering the steep sides
> of various mini-mountain ranges to the North, East and South.


Yet are so eager to judge any other member of Western Civilisation
according to their standards.  This is more a "American Liberal" trait
than specifically a Californian one, though that part of the USA is
quite conspicuous.

Take B Lab for instance, they do B Corp certifications.  From
Pensylvania, this essentially gets companits to follow *specifically
Liberal American* concerns.  That is, this expects us to follow
America's ideas of Social Justice, etc.

But further to this, when discussing online, I find Americans to not
care about your own countries culture.  If we in Australia don't fit
THEIR idea of right-think, all manner of accusations come.

Half if that is the fault though of people here, crazy activists who
want to take on American causes.  I mean, we had BLM protests here!

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  Re: Linux to be illegal in California? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-05-12 08:57 -0700
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                Re: Linux to be illegal in California? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-05-16 09:49 -0700
                Re: Linux to be illegal in California? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-16 21:32 +0000
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