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On Sun, 22 Mar 2026 15:40:52 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote: > Because your religious convictions might not agree with the State > Church > in Norway, Denmark, Finland or Sweden. Lots of people from Europe came > to the States on that basis. The Jews came for the same reasons and > because the rulers of the various lands set the Jews up as scapegoats, > not allowing them to farm but to take jobs like collecting taxes. I think my paternal grandmother's people may have left Europe because of Bismarck's Kulturkampf. That's just a guess based on the dates on old grave markers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kulturkampf Germany still is about 2/3 Protestant in the north, and 1/3 Catholic in the south among the ones that are at all religious. Somewhere in Goebbel's diaries iirc he mentions the Protestants tended to be SA, the Catholics SS.
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