Re: Two kinds of Lutherans (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE)

From	rbowman <bowman@montana.com>
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Subject	Re: Two kinds of Lutherans (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE)
Date	2025-09-01 18:35 +0000
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On Mon, 1 Sep 2025 02:03:11 -0400, c186282 wrote:

>    The "Lutherans" (many versions) were "revolutionaries".

Luther not so much.

https://zimmer.fresnostate.edu/~mariterel/
against_the_robbing_and_murderin.htm

Overthrowing the spiritual authority was no excuse for the peasants to 
think they should question temporal authority.  Luther was firmly in the 
princes camp. Müntzer was another reformer who took the side of the 
peasants; his head wound up on a pike. 

Following Luther the Lutherans tend to go along with whoever is running 
the show in this world. The modern Lutherans also disassociate themselves 
from another of Luther's treatise, 'On the Jews and Their Lies'.

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