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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.misc, alt.folklore.computers |
| Subject | Re: Unix on x86, Hmmm ... Downloaded Xenix - But It's *41* Floppies Worth |
| Date | 2025-09-01 20:15 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <ke4holx55v.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> (permalink) |
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On 2025-09-01 17:01, Peter Flass wrote: > On 8/31/25 22:52, c186282 wrote: >> On 8/31/25 10:36 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: >>> On Sun, 31 Aug 2025 13:44:17 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>> >>>> On 2025-08-30 01:34, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Using overlays was never straightforward, on any OS. >>>> >>>> It was trivial on Turbo Pascal. >>> >>> There were two kinds of overlay system: the one where the calling code >>> could be swapped out while the called code (needing a possible segment >>> swap when returning from the callee) and the one where it couldn’t >>> (needing more memory). >>> >>> Which one did Turbo Pascal use? >> >> I bought v1.x ... and then on. Best money I ever >> spent. DID need overlays for a large pgm in v3.x - >> something between a graphic and mini-GIS app. >> STILL use FPC/Lazarus fairly often. GREAT language. >> >> And, unlike 'C', you can actually kind of read and >> understand your own code years later :-) >> >> And the overlays WERE super easy. WERE limited >> to 64k however. The older TPs came for both x86/DOS >> and CP/M-86. Similar, though not quite identical, >> tricks and solutions. >> >> Foley & Van Dam - "Fundamentals Of Interactive >> Computer Graphics" - has all the good algos >> (IN Pascal). >> >> Hey, did use the M$/IBM multi-pass Pascal compiler >> (still have it in a VM somewhere) but TP was just >> a *revolution*. Even found a good use for the >> 'turtle' in v3.x > > I don't think I ever used TP, but I did use Turbo-C. Borland had great > software, much better than any of its successors, I bought the first TP for Windows. I upgraded Windows 3 to 3.11 (I think), and then the debugger stopped working, the main dll was wrong. I wrote a mail (not email), got no answer from Borland. Eventually I learned I needed an updated dll (debug.dll?) which I copied from somewhere, instead of buying the next version of the compiler from Borland. Not nice not replying to customers. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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Re: Unix on x86, Hmmm ... Downloaded Xenix - But It's *41* Floppies Worth ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2025-08-29 20:52 +0000
Re: Unix on x86, Hmmm ... Downloaded Xenix - But It's *41* Floppies Worth Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-29 23:34 +0000
Re: Unix on x86, Hmmm ... Downloaded Xenix - But It's *41* Floppies Worth Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-08-30 11:51 +0200
Re: Unix on x86, Hmmm ... Downloaded Xenix - But It's *41* Floppies Worth scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-08-30 15:54 +0000
Re: Unix on x86, Hmmm ... Downloaded Xenix - But It's *41* Floppies Worth Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-08-30 12:13 -0700
Re: Unix on x86, Hmmm ... Downloaded Xenix - But It's *41* Floppies Worth ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2025-08-30 19:27 +0000
Re: Unix on x86, Hmmm ... Downloaded Xenix - But It's *41* Floppies Worth Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-08-30 14:45 -0700
Re: Unix on x86, Hmmm ... Downloaded Xenix - But It's *41* Floppies Worth Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-02 21:22 +0000
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Re: Unix on x86, Hmmm ... Downloaded Xenix - But It's *41* Floppies Worth John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-09-03 07:59 -0700
Re: Unix on x86, Hmmm ... Downloaded Xenix - But It's *41* Floppies Worth rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-03 17:38 +0000
Re: Unix on x86, Hmmm ... Downloaded Xenix - But It's *41* Floppies Worth scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-09-03 17:51 +0000
Re: Unix on x86, Hmmm ... Downloaded Xenix - But It's *41* Floppies Worth scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-09-02 22:03 +0000
Re: Unix on x86, Hmmm ... Downloaded Xenix - But It's *41* Floppies Worth Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-08-30 19:34 -0400
Re: Unix on x86, Hmmm ... Downloaded Xenix - But It's *41* Floppies Worth "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-31 13:44 +0200
Re: Unix on x86, Hmmm ... Downloaded Xenix - But It's *41* Floppies Worth Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-01 02:36 +0000
Re: Unix on x86, Hmmm ... Downloaded Xenix - But It's *41* Floppies Worth c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-01 01:52 -0400
Re: Unix on x86, Hmmm ... Downloaded Xenix - But It's *41* Floppies Worth "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 11:26 +0200
Re: Unix on x86, Hmmm ... Downloaded Xenix - But It's *41* Floppies Worth Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-09-01 08:01 -0700
Re: Unix on x86, Hmmm ... Downloaded Xenix - But It's *41* Floppies Worth rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-01 18:12 +0000
Re: Unix on x86, Hmmm ... Downloaded Xenix - But It's *41* Floppies Worth "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 20:15 +0200
Re: Unix on x86, Hmmm ... Downloaded Xenix - But It's *41* Floppies Worth "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 11:20 +0200
Re: Unix on x86, Hmmm ... Downloaded Xenix - But It's *41* Floppies Worth Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-08-30 11:49 +0200
Re: Unix on x86, Hmmm ... Downloaded Xenix - But It's *41* Floppies Worth ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2025-08-30 17:39 +0000
Re: Unix on x86, Hmmm ... Downloaded Xenix - But It's *41* Floppies Worth Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-08-31 12:40 +0200
Re: Unix on x86, Hmmm ... Downloaded Xenix - But It's *41* Floppies Worth Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-08-31 08:19 -0700
Re: Unix on x86, Hmmm ... Downloaded Xenix - But It's *41* Floppies Worth Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-08-31 20:10 +0200
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