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Re: Old Hardware Redux

From	rbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc
Subject	Re: Old Hardware Redux
Date	2025-08-24 20:02 +0000
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On Sun, 24 Aug 2025 10:55:55 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> Genuine conservation and care for the environment was a perfect
> anti-government anti-capitalist movement for the soviets to subvert,
> pour money into, and turn into a monster.

I don't believe the Soviets had much effect in the '80s, but the seeds had 
been planted a generation earlier.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judi_Bari

Bari was one of people that transformed Earth First! and was what is 
referred to as a red diaper baby, Her parents were leftist and she 
followed in their footsteps.

The resurrection and, should I say, cultural appropriation, of the IWW was 
part of the package. The IWW was done after the 1924 schism but the 
concept lived on to be plastered over with woke.

Some of the red diaper crew switched sides. David Horowitz (I didn't 
realize he died in April. No big loss) started out on the far left. His 
moment on the road to Damascus was after he recommended his friend, Betty 
Van Patter, to the Black Panthers as a bookkeeper. After she was raped and 
killed Horowitz suddenly lost interest in paling around with Schwartzers 
and the left in general. He was still an asshole but a neoconservative 
one. He's not unique in that transition.

When termites nibble away at the foundations of the US they're not fussy 
about which side they chomping on.

The Soviets probably got a lot of laughs.

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Old Hardware Redux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-20 02:12 -0400
  Re: Old Hardware Redux "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-20 12:38 +0200
    Re: Old Hardware Redux Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-08-20 13:30 +0200
      Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-20 12:33 +0100
        Re: Old Hardware Redux "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-20 13:52 +0200
          Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-20 14:10 +0100
            Re: Old Hardware Redux Joerg Walther <joerg.walther@magenta.de> - 2025-08-20 16:16 +0200
              Re: Old Hardware Redux Peter 'Shaggy' Haywood <phaywood@alphalink.com.au> - 2025-08-26 19:23 +1000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-27 19:49 +0200
                Re: Old Hardware Redux "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-27 20:37 +0200
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-28 08:56 +0200
                Re: Old Hardware Redux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-28 03:57 -0400
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-28 10:12 +0200
                Re: Old Hardware Redux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-28 04:21 -0400
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-28 12:05 +0200
                Re: Old Hardware Redux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-28 06:28 -0400
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2025-08-28 11:13 +0300
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-28 12:07 +0200
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Peter 'Shaggy' Haywood <phaywood@alphalink.com.au> - 2025-08-28 18:58 +1000
            Re: Old Hardware Redux "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-20 21:02 +0200
        Re: Old Hardware Redux not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-08-21 07:54 +1000
          Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-21 10:11 +0100
          Re: Old Hardware Redux Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-08-21 11:51 +0200
            Re: Old Hardware Redux Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-21 11:31 +0100
              Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-21 11:45 +0100
                Re: Old Hardware Redux "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-21 13:29 +0200
                Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-21 12:49 +0100
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Geoff Clare <geoff@clare.See-My-Signature.invalid> - 2025-08-21 13:44 +0100
                Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-21 14:28 +0100
                Re: Old Hardware Redux "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-21 21:30 +0200
                Re: Old Hardware Redux John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-21 13:05 -0700
                Re: Old Hardware Redux "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-21 22:21 +0200
                Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-22 11:03 +0100
                Re: Old Hardware Redux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-22 09:50 -0400
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-22 22:31 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-08-22 09:40 +1000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-22 02:55 -0400
            Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-21 11:37 +0100
              Re: Old Hardware Redux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-21 18:05 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-08-22 09:57 +1000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-22 00:36 +0000
              Re: Old Hardware Redux not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-08-22 09:28 +1000
              Re: Old Hardware Redux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-22 09:46 -0400
                Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-22 19:45 +0100
                Re: Old Hardware Redux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-23 00:01 -0400
                Re: Old Hardware Redux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-23 04:53 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-23 10:50 +0100
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-23 10:22 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-24 02:25 -0400
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-24 19:19 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-23 20:21 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-24 10:55 +0100
                Re: Old Hardware Redux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-24 20:02 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-25 12:30 +0100
                Re: Old Hardware Redux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-25 18:13 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-26 10:41 +0100
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-24 22:14 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-24 01:09 -0400
                Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-24 10:58 +0100
                Re: Old Hardware Redux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-24 20:12 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-24 14:33 -0700
                Re: Old Hardware Redux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-25 01:47 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-24 21:12 -0700
                Re: Old Hardware Redux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-25 04:34 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-24 21:49 -0700
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-25 05:33 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-25 01:34 -0400
                Re: Old Hardware Redux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-25 18:31 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-26 03:57 -0400
                Re: Old Hardware Redux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-26 19:58 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-25 12:44 +0100
                Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-25 12:40 +0100
                Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-25 12:34 +0100
                Re: Old Hardware Redux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-25 18:24 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-26 03:47 -0400
                Re: Old Hardware Redux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-26 20:01 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-27 00:09 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-23 10:43 +0100
                Re: Old Hardware Redux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-24 00:48 -0400
                Re: Old Hardware Redux not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-08-23 14:09 +1000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-23 06:59 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-08-23 13:02 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-08-24 09:13 +1000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-23 23:37 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-24 03:18 -0400
                Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-23 10:48 +0100
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-23 10:22 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-23 18:02 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-23 23:44 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-24 01:04 -0400
                Re: Old Hardware Redux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-24 20:20 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-25 12:24 +0100
                Re: Old Hardware Redux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-25 18:10 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-26 03:42 -0400
                Re: Old Hardware Redux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-26 19:51 +0000
  Re: Old Hardware Redux Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-20 17:21 +0000
    Re: Old Hardware Redux Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-21 06:51 +0000
      Re: Old Hardware Redux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-21 03:15 -0400
        Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-21 10:14 +0100
          Re: Old Hardware Redux Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-22 01:05 +0000
            Re: Old Hardware Redux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-22 03:00 -0400
    Re: Old Hardware Redux Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-21 10:45 +0100
      Re: Old Hardware Redux Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-21 18:15 +0000

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