Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Old Hardware Redux Date: 24 Aug 2025 20:02:23 GMT Lines: 33 Message-ID: References: <1084bk6$2ia1m$2@paganini.bofh.team> <1084bpn$7mtq$26@dont-email.me> <68a64428@news.ausics.net> <1086q67$2rq5s$5@paganini.bofh.team> <1086st0$rgpt$20@dont-email.me> <8sycnU_KqJQ46TX1nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@giganews.com> <108adsd$1n7i9$5@dont-email.me> <108c2ta$234t5$3@dont-email.me> <108enjb$2n9v5$9@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net Och2gfzbx4tU3U+sm1+Ejw5wIdvPIt49ygIhyNsKVsW8iRswo3 Cancel-Lock: sha1:SLQClPHaHcelGI2XmhshpeusM+k= sha256:wQjWDNRVzgXzMjJnbADL62jpuprVrYXkpGXWJ8bOoZs= User-Agent: Pan/0.162 (Pokrosvk) Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:72180 On Sun, 24 Aug 2025 10:55:55 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > Genuine conservation and care for the environment was a perfect > anti-government anti-capitalist movement for the soviets to subvert, > pour money into, and turn into a monster. I don't believe the Soviets had much effect in the '80s, but the seeds had been planted a generation earlier. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judi_Bari Bari was one of people that transformed Earth First! and was what is referred to as a red diaper baby, Her parents were leftist and she followed in their footsteps. The resurrection and, should I say, cultural appropriation, of the IWW was part of the package. The IWW was done after the 1924 schism but the concept lived on to be plastered over with woke. Some of the red diaper crew switched sides. David Horowitz (I didn't realize he died in April. No big loss) started out on the far left. His moment on the road to Damascus was after he recommended his friend, Betty Van Patter, to the Black Panthers as a bookkeeper. After she was raped and killed Horowitz suddenly lost interest in paling around with Schwartzers and the left in general. He was still an asshole but a neoconservative one. He's not unique in that transition. When termites nibble away at the foundations of the US they're not fussy about which side they chomping on. The Soviets probably got a lot of laughs.