Re: Old Hardware Redux

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From	not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev)
Subject	Re: Old Hardware Redux
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc
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Date	2025-08-23 14:09 +1000
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The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 22/08/2025 14:46, c186282 wrote:
>> On 8/21/25 6:37 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> On 21/08/2025 10:51, Marco Moock wrote:
>>>> On 21.08.2025 07:54 Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> 10 year old technology is fine, Just not 20 year old...
>>>>>
>>>>> For posting to Usenet, this 30 year old PC is doing fine for me.
>>>>
>>>> How do you install a current OS on it that supports current network
>>>> protocols?
>>>>
>>> Find an older version of some current Linux that supports 32bit I guess.
>>>
>>> TCP/IP and Usenet haven't changed in 30 years really...
>> 
>>    No.
>> 
>>    Now if you just MUST have BT and full plug-n-play
>>    with all the goodies and USB3.x ....
>> 
>>    Anyway, there are still a number of perfectly good
>>    Linux distros with 32-bit versions. Just find a
>>    somewhat thin version that won't use up an old PC.
>> 
> Frankly, I cant be arsed.
> 
> I am not the sort of guy who has time to spare trying to make 30 years 
> old shit do whatever it did back in the day.

I look at it the other way - I can't be arsed changing systems
every other day. Ten years between newsreader upgrades is a fair
investment of time in that for me (especially given the debugging).
On systems kept up to date to run Firefox etc., there are lots of
niggling issues with hardware/software changes over the years which
I don't bother to fix because I'm using the old hardware/software
most of the time where I've put the work in already. I still need
put time into fixing the big issues after upgrades to my (more)
up-to-date hardware/software, but at least I can ignore the little
ones.

I've never even found a graphical file manager that I like in newer
Linux since the ones I've used before became hard to build (or
crash when you do) after years of being unmaintained. I thought
about asking here for recommendations, but bugger it, I just use
the command line or MC there since I don't have to sort file out
much compared to the photos, documents, and source code done on old
systems. Then there are all the smaller niggles that I barely
acknowledge like why Conky hasn't been starting since I last
upgraded Devuan on my newer laptop. Torsmo, an ancestor of Conky is
still running like always on this old PC.

Oops, out of free time just from writing this rant now...

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Old Hardware Redux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-20 02:12 -0400
  Re: Old Hardware Redux "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-20 12:38 +0200
    Re: Old Hardware Redux Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-08-20 13:30 +0200
      Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-20 12:33 +0100
        Re: Old Hardware Redux "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-20 13:52 +0200
          Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-20 14:10 +0100
            Re: Old Hardware Redux Joerg Walther <joerg.walther@magenta.de> - 2025-08-20 16:16 +0200
              Re: Old Hardware Redux Peter 'Shaggy' Haywood <phaywood@alphalink.com.au> - 2025-08-26 19:23 +1000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-27 19:49 +0200
                Re: Old Hardware Redux "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-27 20:37 +0200
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-28 08:56 +0200
                Re: Old Hardware Redux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-28 03:57 -0400
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-28 10:12 +0200
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2025-08-28 11:13 +0300
            Re: Old Hardware Redux "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-20 21:02 +0200
        Re: Old Hardware Redux not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-08-21 07:54 +1000
          Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-21 10:11 +0100
          Re: Old Hardware Redux Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-08-21 11:51 +0200
            Re: Old Hardware Redux Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-21 11:31 +0100
              Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-21 11:45 +0100
                Re: Old Hardware Redux "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-21 13:29 +0200
                Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-21 12:49 +0100
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Geoff Clare <geoff@clare.See-My-Signature.invalid> - 2025-08-21 13:44 +0100
                Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-21 14:28 +0100
                Re: Old Hardware Redux "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-21 21:30 +0200
                Re: Old Hardware Redux John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-21 13:05 -0700
                Re: Old Hardware Redux "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-21 22:21 +0200
                Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-22 11:03 +0100
                Re: Old Hardware Redux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-22 09:50 -0400
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-22 22:31 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-08-22 09:40 +1000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-22 02:55 -0400
            Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-21 11:37 +0100
              Re: Old Hardware Redux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-21 18:05 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-08-22 09:57 +1000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-22 00:36 +0000
              Re: Old Hardware Redux not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-08-22 09:28 +1000
              Re: Old Hardware Redux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-22 09:46 -0400
                Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-22 19:45 +0100
                Re: Old Hardware Redux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-23 00:01 -0400
                Re: Old Hardware Redux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-23 04:53 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-23 10:50 +0100
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-23 10:22 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-24 02:25 -0400
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-24 19:19 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-23 20:21 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-24 10:55 +0100
                Re: Old Hardware Redux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-24 20:02 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-25 12:30 +0100
                Re: Old Hardware Redux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-25 18:13 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-26 10:41 +0100
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-24 22:14 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-24 01:09 -0400
                Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-24 10:58 +0100
                Re: Old Hardware Redux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-24 20:12 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-24 14:33 -0700
                Re: Old Hardware Redux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-25 01:47 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-24 21:12 -0700
                Re: Old Hardware Redux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-25 04:34 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-24 21:49 -0700
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-25 05:33 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-25 01:34 -0400
                Re: Old Hardware Redux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-25 18:31 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-26 03:57 -0400
                Re: Old Hardware Redux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-26 19:58 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-25 12:44 +0100
                Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-25 12:40 +0100
                Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-25 12:34 +0100
                Re: Old Hardware Redux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-25 18:24 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-26 03:47 -0400
                Re: Old Hardware Redux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-26 20:01 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-27 00:09 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-23 10:43 +0100
                Re: Old Hardware Redux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-24 00:48 -0400
                Re: Old Hardware Redux not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-08-23 14:09 +1000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-23 06:59 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-08-23 13:02 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-08-24 09:13 +1000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-23 23:37 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-24 03:18 -0400
                Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-23 10:48 +0100
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-23 10:22 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-23 18:02 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-23 23:44 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-24 01:04 -0400
                Re: Old Hardware Redux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-24 20:20 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-25 12:24 +0100
                Re: Old Hardware Redux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-25 18:10 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-26 03:42 -0400
                Re: Old Hardware Redux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-26 19:51 +0000
  Re: Old Hardware Redux Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-20 17:21 +0000
    Re: Old Hardware Redux Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-21 06:51 +0000
      Re: Old Hardware Redux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-21 03:15 -0400
        Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-21 10:14 +0100
          Re: Old Hardware Redux Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-22 01:05 +0000
            Re: Old Hardware Redux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-22 03:00 -0400
    Re: Old Hardware Redux Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-21 10:45 +0100
      Re: Old Hardware Redux Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-21 18:15 +0000

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