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Re: Old Hardware Redux

From "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc
Subject Re: Old Hardware Redux
Date 2025-08-20 13:52 +0200
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On 2025-08-20 13:33, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 20/08/2025 12:30, Marco Moock wrote:
>> On 20.08.2025 12:38 Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>
>>> Not enough RAM kills usability of old systems.
>>
>> Not enough CPU power too.
>>
>> Most current website are overloaded with crap and are rendered very
>> slowly on old machines.
>>
> Yes. and crap MIPS per Watt.
> 
> However that is not an excuse to go out and waste money of bleeding edge 
> shit, unless you are  A Gamer™
> 
> 10 year old technology is fine, Just not 20 year old...
> 

My previous desktop computer was killed for:

  * Nvidia refused to upgrade the proprietary driver for that card, so 
eventually had to switch to Nouveau

  * VMware refused to run unless certain CPU instructions for 
virtualisation existed. Virtualbox continued to run, but migration of 
machines failed for me.

  * Motherboard was maxed with 8 GiB, would not accept more.

  * Swaping on rotating rust started sucking after some kernel/libc 
update, because of fragmentation causing the disk heads to do a lot of 
seeking. The cure was switching to SSD.

My previous laptop had more issues:

  * 4 GiB

  * Slow CPU, fanless

  * Too small display.


So I bit the bullet and purchased a desktop machine with 64 GiB and a 
laptop with 32. I expect them to last 10 or 15 years.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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Old Hardware Redux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-20 02:12 -0400
  Re: Old Hardware Redux "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-20 12:38 +0200
    Re: Old Hardware Redux Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-08-20 13:30 +0200
      Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-20 12:33 +0100
        Re: Old Hardware Redux "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-20 13:52 +0200
          Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-20 14:10 +0100
            Re: Old Hardware Redux Joerg Walther <joerg.walther@magenta.de> - 2025-08-20 16:16 +0200
            Re: Old Hardware Redux "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-20 21:02 +0200
        Re: Old Hardware Redux not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-08-21 07:54 +1000
          Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-21 10:11 +0100
          Re: Old Hardware Redux Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-08-21 11:51 +0200
            Re: Old Hardware Redux Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-21 11:31 +0100
              Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-21 11:45 +0100
                Re: Old Hardware Redux "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-21 13:29 +0200
                Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-21 12:49 +0100
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Geoff Clare <geoff@clare.See-My-Signature.invalid> - 2025-08-21 13:44 +0100
                Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-21 14:28 +0100
                Re: Old Hardware Redux "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-21 21:30 +0200
                Re: Old Hardware Redux John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-21 13:05 -0700
                Re: Old Hardware Redux "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-21 22:21 +0200
                Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-22 11:03 +0100
                Re: Old Hardware Redux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-22 09:50 -0400
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-22 22:31 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-08-22 09:40 +1000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-22 02:55 -0400
            Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-21 11:37 +0100
              Re: Old Hardware Redux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-21 18:05 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-08-22 09:57 +1000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-22 00:36 +0000
              Re: Old Hardware Redux not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-08-22 09:28 +1000
              Re: Old Hardware Redux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-22 09:46 -0400
                Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-22 19:45 +0100
                Re: Old Hardware Redux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-23 00:01 -0400
                Re: Old Hardware Redux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-23 04:53 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-23 10:50 +0100
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-23 10:22 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-24 02:25 -0400
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-24 19:19 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-23 20:21 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-24 10:55 +0100
                Re: Old Hardware Redux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-24 20:02 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-25 12:30 +0100
                Re: Old Hardware Redux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-25 18:13 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-24 22:14 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-24 01:09 -0400
                Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-24 10:58 +0100
                Re: Old Hardware Redux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-24 20:12 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-24 14:33 -0700
                Re: Old Hardware Redux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-25 01:47 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-24 21:12 -0700
                Re: Old Hardware Redux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-25 04:34 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-24 21:49 -0700
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-25 05:33 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-25 01:34 -0400
                Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-25 12:44 +0100
                Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-25 12:40 +0100
                Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-25 12:34 +0100
                Re: Old Hardware Redux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-25 18:24 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-23 10:43 +0100
                Re: Old Hardware Redux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-24 00:48 -0400
                Re: Old Hardware Redux not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-08-23 14:09 +1000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-23 06:59 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-08-23 13:02 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-08-24 09:13 +1000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-23 23:37 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-24 03:18 -0400
                Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-23 10:48 +0100
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-23 10:22 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-23 18:02 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-23 23:44 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-24 01:04 -0400
                Re: Old Hardware Redux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-24 20:20 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-25 12:24 +0100
                Re: Old Hardware Redux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-25 18:10 +0000
  Re: Old Hardware Redux Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-20 17:21 +0000
    Re: Old Hardware Redux Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-21 06:51 +0000
      Re: Old Hardware Redux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-21 03:15 -0400
        Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-21 10:14 +0100
          Re: Old Hardware Redux Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-22 01:05 +0000
            Re: Old Hardware Redux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-22 03:00 -0400
    Re: Old Hardware Redux Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-21 10:45 +0100
      Re: Old Hardware Redux Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-21 18:15 +0000

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