Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine

From	vallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc
Subject	Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine
Date	2024-08-24 15:59 +0000
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On Sat, 24 Aug 2024 00:48:43 -0400, "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net>
wrote in <kEmdnWyA0cax-1T7nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@earthlink.com>:

> On 8/23/24 6:46 AM, vallor wrote:
>> On Fri, 23 Aug 2024 02:37:25 -0400, "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net>
>> wrote in <OQ6dnRNhof67s1X7nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@earthlink.com>:
>> 
>>> On 8/23/24 2:01 AM, vallor wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 23 Aug 2024 05:54:46 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
>>>> <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote in <va9876$qcj0$1@dont-email.me>:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 23 Aug 2024 01:41:21 -0400, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/22/24 10:23 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Windows, Apple OS X, even BeOS ... all got the idea that you must
>>>>>>> tie the GUI inextricably into the OS kernel, possibly for
>>>>>>> “efficiency”
>>>>>>> reasons or to enforce common GUI standards or something.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Meanwhile the *nix folks blithely cruised on with their 1980s-based
>>>>>>> keep- the-GUI-as-a-separate-modular-layer idea.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And guess what: that turned out to be a much more versatile and
>>>>>>> future-
>>>>>>> proof architecture.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes ... but not so great for "gaming" ...
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually, it’s working great for gaming, as the Steam Deck proves.
>>>>
>>>> Great strides have been made with proton -- I can play Starfield, Elite
>>>> Dangerous Odyssey, Borderlands 3, and Tiny Tina's Wonderland.
>>>>
>>>> People who say you can't game on Linux haven't been keeping up with the
>>>> times...
>>>
>>>     Ummmm ... I'd say "benchmark" ....
>>>
>>>     Some of the capabilities you tout have more to do with the sheer
>>>     speed of latter-day CPUs than the merits of the underlying OS.
>> 
>> Some games are even faster on Linux than Windows, thanks
>> to...
>> 
>>     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DXVK
>> 
>> The games run fine on Linux.  Welcome to the 2020's. :)
> 
>    Note my other response to this sub-thread.
> 
>    The WAYS Steam yields performance MAY not
>    be so good for "security".

This is FUD.

> 
>    In truth, the olde-tyme DOS way of direct
>    hardware writes to the main/aux video bufs
>    was the best way to get max speed for games.
>    I've used that myself to good effect. However
>    it's not 'secure', and malicious entities
>    CAN take advantage.
> 
>    So - Steam for games ... but X for the rest.

This doesn't make any sense: the Steam client for Linux
is an X application.

>    Rig up dual boot or something.

No; I don't have, or need, any MS Windows on my workstation.

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  Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2024-08-14 18:13 +0200
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        Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2024-08-16 10:12 +0200
          Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-16 08:14 +0000
            Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-08-17 10:00 +1000
            Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2024-08-17 11:12 +0200
              Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-08-17 23:40 -0400
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                Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-08-18 21:48 -0400
            Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine Jack Strangio  <jackstrangio@yahoo.com> - 2024-08-18 08:59 +0000
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                Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-18 23:22 +0000
                Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-08-18 23:37 +0000
                Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine Jack Strangio  <jackstrangio@yahoo.com> - 2024-08-19 06:01 +0000
                Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2024-08-19 08:25 +0200
                Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-08-21 00:21 -0400
                Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-08-21 17:46 +0000
                Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-08-22 01:06 -0400
                Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-08-22 09:35 +0100
                Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-08-23 02:24 -0400
                Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-08-22 19:18 +0000
                Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-23 02:23 +0000
                Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-08-23 01:41 -0400
                Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-23 05:54 +0000
                Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-08-23 06:01 +0000
                Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-08-23 02:37 -0400
                Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-23 07:01 +0000
                Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-08-24 00:43 -0400
                Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-24 05:34 +0000
                Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-08-23 10:46 +0000
                Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-08-24 00:48 -0400
                Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-08-24 15:59 +0000
              Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2024-08-18 19:07 +0200
                Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine Jack Strangio  <jackstrangio@yahoo.com> - 2024-08-19 06:01 +0000
                Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2024-08-19 08:26 +0200
                Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine Jack Strangio  <jackstrangio@yahoo.com> - 2024-08-20 03:37 +0000
                Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-08-20 00:56 -0400
          Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) - 2024-08-16 14:41 +0000
            Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2024-08-17 11:13 +0200
              Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) - 2024-08-17 14:00 +0000
                Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2024-08-18 19:08 +0200
  Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> - 2024-08-15 12:42 +0200
  Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-08-17 00:37 -0400
    Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2024-08-17 11:16 +0200
      Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-08-18 09:12 +1000
        Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2024-08-18 19:25 +0200
          Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-08-19 08:31 +1000
            Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2024-08-19 08:29 +0200
              Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-08-20 08:02 +1000
                Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-08-21 01:55 -0400
      Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-08-17 22:24 -0400
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          Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-08-18 21:38 -0400
            Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-19 01:51 +0000
              Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-08-20 00:08 -0400
                Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-20 05:33 +0000
                Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-08-20 23:08 -0400
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          Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-08-18 21:08 -0400
            Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2024-08-19 08:35 +0200
              Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-08-19 03:19 -0400
                Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2024-08-19 10:06 +0200
                Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-08-20 00:36 -0400
                Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-08-21 08:33 +1000
                Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-08-20 23:03 -0400
    Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) - 2024-08-17 13:59 +0000
      Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-08-17 22:47 -0400
  Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine MarioCCCP <NoliMihiFrangereMentulam@libero.it> - 2024-08-19 18:18 +0200
    Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-08-19 19:48 +0100
      Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine MarioCCCP <NoliMihiFrangereMentulam@libero.it> - 2024-08-20 14:10 +0200
    Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-20 02:01 +0000
      Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine MarioCCCP <NoliMihiFrangereMentulam@libero.it> - 2024-08-20 14:15 +0200
      Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2024-08-20 17:51 +0100
        Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-21 01:29 +0000
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