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Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine

Subject Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine
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From "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net>
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Date 2024-08-19 03:19 -0400
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On 8/19/24 2:35 AM, Marc Haber wrote:
> "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote:
>>    Def : "NvRAM" - Non-Volatile-Random-Access-Memory ...
>>    the 'e-disk' you now find in every laptop and oft
>>    even desktops these days. Most commonly "M2" but
>>    the tech can be put in other things/formats. First
>>    saw one in the Asus EEEPC as the main 'drive'.
> 
> That terminology is totally exotic. You're probably mixing up NVMe and
> NVRAM.


   Um ... nothing remotely "exotic" about it.
   What cave have you been living in since 1969 ???
   It's all the SAME THING ... just different acronyms.


>>    4 gig ? DO-able, but kinda TIGHT. The 32g unit ought to
>>    be better. As for "gobs" ... depends on WHAT you're running
>>    on the VMs. Some apps/servers are more memory-intensive
>>    than others ... ArcGIS for example.
> 
> Of course. Any software is not going to be smaller on a VM than on
> bare metal. But you can't blame that to virtualizatin.

   Not "blaming" it - that's just How It Is. If you
   run a big busy DB as a VM then you're gonna have
   to provide the CPU/mem so it'll run properly.

>>    Anyway, mem is still fairly cheap, so why buy 4g when 8g
>>    barely costs any more ?
> 
> Because housing machines can get expensive pretty quickly. The APU I
> am running those five VMs on comes with 4 GB and is not expandable.
> And it does the job silently and doesn't get hot.

   What's your fix - "go cloud" ??? A lot of us KNOW better,
   how BADLY that can go wrong.

   And with Russia/China/NK initiatives it's gonna go
   all the wronger all the faster.

   In any case, your 4gb solution sounds kinda "marginal", but
   of course that depends on what your VMs are/do and whether
   you run 'em one at a time or all together.

   Even these modern mini-boxes (search Amazon, there are a
   huge selection of variants) are - with Linux/Unix - more
   than adequate for a large number of "common" uses. Those
   ultra-i9's ... well ... maybe if your main thing is
   playing games. That's valid - but "biz" has a different
   spectrum of needs. With -ix, even a modern i3 can host
   like an entire airport booking system, multi-company, and
   be pretty snappy. Each airline gets its own VM.

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Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) - 2024-08-14 13:31 +0000
  Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2024-08-14 18:13 +0200
    Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2024-08-14 16:43 +0000
      Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2024-08-14 20:52 +0300
      Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> - 2024-08-15 12:42 +0200
        Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2024-08-16 10:12 +0200
          Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-16 08:14 +0000
            Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-08-17 10:00 +1000
            Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2024-08-17 11:12 +0200
              Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-08-17 23:40 -0400
                Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) - 2024-08-18 12:34 +0000
                Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-08-18 21:48 -0400
            Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine Jack Strangio  <jackstrangio@yahoo.com> - 2024-08-18 08:59 +0000
              Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2024-08-18 11:02 +0100
                Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-18 23:22 +0000
                Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-08-18 23:37 +0000
                Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine Jack Strangio  <jackstrangio@yahoo.com> - 2024-08-19 06:01 +0000
                Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2024-08-19 08:25 +0200
                Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-08-21 00:21 -0400
                Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-08-21 17:46 +0000
                Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-08-22 01:06 -0400
                Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-08-22 09:35 +0100
                Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-08-23 02:24 -0400
                Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-08-22 19:18 +0000
                Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-23 02:23 +0000
                Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-08-23 01:41 -0400
                Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-23 05:54 +0000
                Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-08-23 06:01 +0000
                Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-08-23 02:37 -0400
                Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-23 07:01 +0000
                Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-08-24 00:43 -0400
                Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-24 05:34 +0000
                Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-08-23 10:46 +0000
                Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-08-24 00:48 -0400
                Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-08-24 15:59 +0000
              Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2024-08-18 19:07 +0200
                Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine Jack Strangio  <jackstrangio@yahoo.com> - 2024-08-19 06:01 +0000
                Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2024-08-19 08:26 +0200
                Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine Jack Strangio  <jackstrangio@yahoo.com> - 2024-08-20 03:37 +0000
                Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-08-20 00:56 -0400
          Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) - 2024-08-16 14:41 +0000
            Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2024-08-17 11:13 +0200
              Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) - 2024-08-17 14:00 +0000
                Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2024-08-18 19:08 +0200
  Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> - 2024-08-15 12:42 +0200
  Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-08-17 00:37 -0400
    Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2024-08-17 11:16 +0200
      Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-08-18 09:12 +1000
        Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2024-08-18 19:25 +0200
          Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-08-19 08:31 +1000
            Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2024-08-19 08:29 +0200
              Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-08-20 08:02 +1000
                Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-08-21 01:55 -0400
      Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-08-17 22:24 -0400
        Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-18 06:28 +0000
          Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-08-18 21:38 -0400
            Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-19 01:51 +0000
              Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-08-20 00:08 -0400
                Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-20 05:33 +0000
                Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-08-20 23:08 -0400
        Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2024-08-18 19:31 +0200
          Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-08-18 21:08 -0400
            Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2024-08-19 08:35 +0200
              Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-08-19 03:19 -0400
                Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2024-08-19 10:06 +0200
                Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-08-20 00:36 -0400
                Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-08-21 08:33 +1000
                Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-08-20 23:03 -0400
    Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) - 2024-08-17 13:59 +0000
      Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-08-17 22:47 -0400
  Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine MarioCCCP <NoliMihiFrangereMentulam@libero.it> - 2024-08-19 18:18 +0200
    Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-08-19 19:48 +0100
      Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine MarioCCCP <NoliMihiFrangereMentulam@libero.it> - 2024-08-20 14:10 +0200
    Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-20 02:01 +0000
      Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine MarioCCCP <NoliMihiFrangereMentulam@libero.it> - 2024-08-20 14:15 +0200
      Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2024-08-20 17:51 +0100
        Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-21 01:29 +0000
          Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-08-21 02:53 -0400
            Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-08-22 20:30 +0000

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