Re: What kinds of business use Linux?

From	Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com>
Organization	Deepwoods Software
Subject	Re: What kinds of business use Linux?
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Date	2011-04-22 19:50 -0500

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At Fri, 22 Apr 2011 14:45:18 -0700 Todd <Todd@invalid.com> wrote:

> 
> On 04/22/2011 01:59 PM, Robert Heller wrote:
> >> On the Quick Books (QB) front: it is the main Linux killer
> >> I face in business.  QB uses a proprietary database
> >> from hell that only runs on M$ OS'es.  And, since,
> >> QB 2006, it will only run poorly from a Samba server
> >> in single user mode -- it is on purpose.  QB has a single
> >> and a multiuser mode.  Don't ask.  It is really unprofessional
> >> and down right stupid.  I tell Intuit so frequently.  It
> >> does mean I can not use a Linux server.
> >
> > Intuit is in the same "boat" as M$ (and to a lesser extent Adobe).
> > Because of their (broken) business model, they need to make things
> > 'hard' -- they need to do this keep themselves in business.  If QB ran
> > well in single user mode from a Samba server, who would bother with
> > their multiuser mode?
> 
> And if Intuit used MySQL or PostgreSQL you could write your own screens
> with Glom or Approach.  I don't see why they care.  They don't offer
> custom programming anyway.  But, oh my gosh, someone just might ...
> 
> >
> > Over in the GnuCash user mailling list, lots of people bitch and moan
> > about Quick Books and/or Quicken -- Intuit has a nasty license game
> > going on -- you have to fork over the annual 'rent' to get updated tax
> > tables and whatnot -- because of this and other stuff Intuit does
> > wrong, there is a slow, but steady 'migration' away from QB to GnuCash.
> > While GnuCash does not have a multiuser mode (yet) nor does it have
> > payrol or inventory features (yet), it does work extremely well as a
> > business or personal double-entry bookkeeping system.
> 
> Ouch.  Payroll and Inventory are two features required by a lot
> of businesses.

GnuCash is open source.  All it really takes is someone who needs these
features and has some programming skill to write the modules...

> 
> My guess is that Intuit sells QB under what it costs and then
> nickel and dimes you to death making up for it.  It is as cheap
> to buy a new version with the free years payroll then to upgrade
> your payroll.  I do believe their nick name is Quick Bucks.
> 
> And don't ever, never ever, never, never, never ever buy Intuit's
> Point of Sale service!  It is H-O-R-R-I-B-L-E.  Try sending a parts
> invoice to a location that has multiple locations and you get
> a separate line entry for every location's sales tax!  And, so on and
> so forth!

Ouch!

> 
> I would love a way around Quick Bucks.  But, the customer does not
> want to relearn anything and they want to use any accountant
> in the phone book.
> 
> -T
>                                                                                        

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What kinds of business use Linux? Todd <Todd@invalid.com> - 2011-04-18 19:16 -0700
  Re: What kinds of business use Linux? Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> - 2011-04-19 02:42 +0000
    Re: What kinds of business use Linux? Todd <Todd@invalid.com> - 2011-04-18 19:51 -0700
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            Re: What kinds of business use Linux? Todd <Todd@invalid.com> - 2011-04-20 10:56 -0700
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    Re: What kinds of business use Linux? Todd <Todd@invalid.com> - 2011-04-18 19:52 -0700
      Re: What kinds of business use Linux? Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2011-04-19 03:45 +0000
        Re: What kinds of business use Linux? Todd <Todd@invalid.com> - 2011-04-18 21:04 -0700
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  Re: What kinds of business use Linux? ray <ray@zianet.com> - 2011-04-19 02:53 +0000
    Re: What kinds of business use Linux? Todd <Todd@invalid.com> - 2011-04-18 20:25 -0700
      Re: What kinds of business use Linux? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2011-04-18 23:05 -0500
        Re: What kinds of business use Linux? Todd <Todd@invalid.com> - 2011-04-18 21:20 -0700
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            Re: What kinds of business use Linux? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-19 15:23 +0100
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                Re: What kinds of business use Linux? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-19 22:20 +0100
      Re: What kinds of business use Linux? Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> - 2011-04-19 04:18 +0000
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          Re: What kinds of business use Linux? notbob <notbob@notbob.invalid> - 2011-04-19 18:57 +0000
    Re: What kinds of business use Linux? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2011-04-18 22:48 -0500
  Re: What kinds of business use Linux? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2011-04-18 22:48 -0500
    Re: What kinds of business use Linux? Todd <Todd@invalid.com> - 2011-04-18 21:00 -0700
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      Re: What kinds of business use Linux? Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2011-04-19 19:25 +0000
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    Re: What kinds of business use Linux? notbob <notbob@notbob.invalid> - 2011-04-19 16:58 +0000
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        Re: What kinds of business use Linux? Todd <Todd@invalid.com> - 2011-04-20 11:07 -0700
  Re: What kinds of business use Linux? Joe Makowiec <makowiec@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-19 17:14 +0000
    Re: What kinds of business use Linux? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-19 18:53 +0100
  Re: What kinds of business use Linux? TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2011-04-21 12:17 -0400
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      Re: What kinds of business use Linux? notbob <notbob@notbob.invalid> - 2011-04-21 18:37 +0000
        Re: What kinds of business use Linux? Todd <Todd@invalid.com> - 2011-04-21 12:27 -0700
      Re: What kinds of business use Linux? TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2011-04-21 18:01 -0400
        Re: What kinds of business use Linux? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-22 17:43 +0100
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        Re: What kinds of business use Linux? Todd <Todd@invalid.com> - 2011-04-22 12:33 -0700
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