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| Subject | Re: Well DUH ! AI People Finally Realize They Can Ditch Most Floating-Point for Big Ints |
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| From | "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> |
| Organization | wokiesux |
| Date | 2024-10-15 02:31 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <Gv-dnUVOoczDkZP6nZ2dnZfqn_UAAAAA@earthlink.com> (permalink) |
On 10/14/24 6:16 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 13/10/2024 14:23, Pancho wrote: >> On 10/13/24 13:25, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>> On 13/10/2024 10:15, Richard Kettlewell wrote: >>>> "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> writes: >>>>> https://techxplore.com/news/2024-10-integer-addition-algorithm-energy-ai.html >>>>> >>>> [...] >>>>> The default use of floating-point really took off when >>>>> 'neural networks' became popular in the 80s. Seemed the >>>>> ideal way to keep track of all the various weightings >>>>> and values. >>>>> >>>>> But, floating-point operations use a huge amount of >>>>> CPU/NPU power. >>>>> >>>>> Seems somebody finally realized that the 'extra resolution' >>>>> of floating-point was rarely necessary and you can just >>>>> use large integers instead. Integer math is FAST and uses >>>>> LITTLE power ..... >>>> >>>> That’s situational. In this case, the paper isn’t about using large >>>> integers, it’s about very low precision floating point representations. >>>> They’ve just found a way to approximate floating point multiplication >>>> without multiplying the fractional parts of the mantissas. >>>> >>> Last I heard they were going to use D to As feeding analog >>> multipliers. And convert back to D afterwards. for a speed/ precision >>> tradeoff. >>> >> >> That sounds like the 1960s. I guess this idea does sound like a slide >> rule. > > No, apparently its a new (sic!) idea. > > I think that even if it does not work successfully it is great that > people are thinking outside the box. > Analogue computers could offer massive parallelism for simulating > complex dynamic systems. Yea, but not much PRECISION beyond a stage or two of calx :-) No "perfect" fixes.
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Well DUH ! AI People Finally Realize They Can Ditch Most Floating-Point for Big Ints "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-12 22:54 -0400
Re: Well DUH ! AI People Finally Realize They Can Ditch Most Floating-Point for Big Ints Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-13 10:15 +0100
Re: Well DUH ! AI People Finally Realize They Can Ditch Most Floating-Point for Big Ints The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-13 13:25 +0100
Re: Well DUH ! AI People Finally Realize They Can Ditch Most Floating-Point for Big Ints Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-10-13 14:23 +0100
Re: Well DUH ! AI People Finally Realize They Can Ditch Most Floating-Point for Big Ints The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-14 11:16 +0100
Re: Well DUH ! AI People Finally Realize They Can Ditch Most Floating-Point for Big Ints not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-10-15 07:10 +1000
Re: Well DUH ! AI People Finally Realize They Can Ditch Most Floating-Point for Big Ints The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-14 23:47 +0100
Re: Well DUH ! AI People Finally Realize They Can Ditch Most Floating-Point for Big Ints "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-15 02:31 -0400
Re: Well DUH ! AI People Finally Realize They Can Ditch Most Floating-Point for Big Ints The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-15 12:03 +0100
Re: Well DUH ! AI People Finally Realize They Can Ditch Most Floating-Point for Big Ints "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-16 02:54 -0400
Re: Well DUH ! AI People Finally Realize They Can Ditch Most Floating-Point for Big Ints "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-15 02:30 -0400
Re: Well DUH ! AI People Finally Realize They Can Ditch Most Floating-Point for Big Ints Mike Scott <usenet.16@scottsonline.org.uk.invalid> - 2024-10-15 08:52 +0100
Re: Well DUH ! AI People Finally Realize They Can Ditch Most Floating-Point for Big Ints Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-15 09:14 +0100
Re: Well DUH ! AI People Finally Realize They Can Ditch Most Floating-Point for Big Ints Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-10-13 11:45 +0100
Re: Well DUH ! AI People Finally Realize They Can Ditch Most Floating-Point for Big Ints "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-15 02:43 -0400
Re: Well DUH ! AI People Finally Realize They Can Ditch Most Floating-Point for Big Ints The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-15 12:06 +0100
Re: Well DUH ! AI People Finally Realize They Can Ditch Most Floating-Point for Big Ints "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-16 02:38 -0400
Re: Well DUH ! AI People Finally Realize They Can Ditch Most Floating-Point for Big Ints Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-10-16 08:23 +0100
Re: Well DUH ! AI People Finally Realize They Can Ditch Most Floating-Point for Big Ints Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-16 11:56 +0100
Re: Well DUH ! AI People Finally Realize They Can Ditch Most Floating-Point for Big Ints "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-18 00:20 -0400
Re: Well DUH ! AI People Finally Realize They Can Ditch Most Floating-Point for Big Ints Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-18 17:34 +0100
Re: Well DUH ! AI People Finally Realize They Can Ditch Most Floating-Point for Big Ints 186282ud0s3 <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-18 14:12 -0400
Re: Well DUH ! AI People Finally Realize They Can Ditch Most Floating-Point for Big Ints Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-10-18 15:56 -0400
Re: Well DUH ! AI People Finally Realize They Can Ditch Most Floating-Point for Big Ints The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-18 21:06 +0100
Re: Well DUH ! AI People Finally Realize They Can Ditch Most Floating-Point for Big Ints rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-15 19:20 +0000
Re: Well DUH ! AI People Finally Realize They Can Ditch Most Floating-Point for Big Ints Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-10-15 15:46 -0400
Re: Well DUH ! AI People Finally Realize They Can Ditch Most Floating-Point for Big Ints rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-16 02:35 +0000
Re: Well DUH ! AI People Finally Realize They Can Ditch Most Floating-Point for Big Ints "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-16 03:13 -0400
Re: Well DUH ! AI People Finally Realize They Can Ditch Most Floating-Point for Big Ints Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-10-16 07:40 -0400
Re: Well DUH ! AI People Finally Realize They Can Ditch Most Floating-Point for Big Ints Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-16 16:16 +0000
Less politics, more Linux! (was: Re: Well DUH ! AI People Finally Realize They Can Ditch Most Floating-Point for Big Ints) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-10-16 16:25 +0000
Re: Less politics, more Linux! Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-10-16 14:24 -0400
Re: Less politics, more Linux! vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-10-16 18:29 +0000
Re: Well DUH ! AI People Finally Realize They Can Ditch Most Floating-Point for Big Ints The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-16 20:02 +0100
Re: Well DUH ! AI People Finally Realize They Can Ditch Most Floating-Point for Big Ints rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-16 21:07 +0000
Re: Well DUH ! AI People Finally Realize They Can Ditch Most Floating-Point for Big Ints Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-10-17 06:54 -0400
Re: Well DUH ! AI People Finally Realize They Can Ditch Most Floating-Point for Big Ints The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-17 13:38 +0100
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