Re: MS Access

From	Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de>
Newsgroups	alt.comp.os.windows-10, comp.os.linux.misc
Subject	Re: MS Access
Followup-To	comp.os.linux.misc
Date	2024-08-18 11:49 +0200
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On So 18 Aug 2024 at 05:28, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

> On Sun, 8/18/2024 2:44 AM, Lars Poulsen wrote:
>> On 8/16/2024 9:14 PM, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
>>>    But - without Winders license - it'd probably knock
>>>    thirty or forty bucks off the price easy. Why don't
>>>    they sell THOSE ?
>> 
>> I bet that MS is still doing what they did decades ago: The box builders
>> get a huge discount - say 75% - on the cost of their Windows licenses,
>> PROVIDED that they put Windows on ALL the boxes they sell.
>
> There is an article about it.
>
>    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundling_of_Microsoft_Windows
>
> You can find sellers who don't put Windows on the hard drive.
> When I bought an OEM machine at Eurocom (Eurocom branded,
> Clevo is the ODM), Windows was not on the hard drive.
> As a build to order, there is a tick box on the form for Windows,
> and it is boxed Windows, not Royalty OEM Windows. Eurocom
> does not put a SLIC in the BIOS, because the Windows used
> has a COA sticker.
>
> You can also build your own computer. You'll need a couple
> screwdrivers, a small Philips for some of the screws, a
> larger Philips for some of the others. An after-market CPU
> air cooler, even has a screwdriver in the box (I like those
> screwdrivers). Your hard drive, when you get it, has no OS
> on it.
>
>    Paul

I recently bought a new computer from Lenovo, built to order. I could
select to have either Windows, Ubuntu or no OS. It was even a few Euros
cheaper without OS.

'Andreas

-- 
ceterum censeo redmondinem esse delendam

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              Re: MS Access "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2024-08-06 02:56 -0400
                Re: MS Access Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-06 23:37 +0000
                Re: MS Access Philip Herlihy <PhillipHerlihy@SlashDevNull.invalid> - 2024-08-07 12:38 +0100
                Re: MS Access Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-07 21:43 +0000
                Re: MS Access Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-08-08 07:50 +0000
                Re: MS Access Big Al <alan@invalid.com> - 2024-08-08 10:43 -0400
                Re: MS Access Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-08-08 19:42 +0000
                Re: MS Access Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-09 01:16 +0000
                Re: MS Access rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-08-08 17:42 +0000
                Re: MS Access "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-08-12 01:06 -0400
                Re: MS Access Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-12 08:38 +0000
                Re: MS Access "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-08-13 01:51 -0400
                Re: MS Access Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-13 21:49 +0000
                Re: MS Access Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-08-14 02:48 +0000
                Re: MS Access Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-08-14 02:50 +0000
                Re: MS Access Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-14 03:36 +0000
                Re: MS Access "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-08-14 03:52 -0400
                Re: MS Access Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-14 08:49 +0000
                Re: MS Access "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-08-14 03:50 -0400
                Re: MS Access Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-14 08:51 +0000
                Re: MS Access Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-08-14 16:52 +0000
                Re: MS Access Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-14 21:37 +0000
                Re: MS Access sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2024-08-14 18:22 -0500
                Re: MS Access Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-08-15 00:30 +0000
                Re: MS Access Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-16 02:22 +0000
                Re: MS Access "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-08-17 00:14 -0400
                Re: MS Access Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-17 07:25 +0000
                Re: MS Access Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2024-08-17 23:44 -0700
                Re: MS Access Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-08-18 05:28 -0400
                Re: MS Access Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2024-08-18 11:49 +0200
                Re: MS Access rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-08-18 19:36 +0000
                Re: MS Access Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-08-18 20:42 -0400
                Re: MS Access rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-08-19 20:44 +0000
                Re: MS Access p.dean@gmx.com (Peter Dean) - 2024-08-19 05:37 +0000
                Re: MS Access Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-08-19 03:18 -0400
                Re: MS Access rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-08-19 20:51 +0000
                Re: MS Access Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-21 23:55 +0000
                Re: MS Access Jack Strangio  <jackstrangio@yahoo.com> - 2024-08-18 08:43 +0000
                Re: MS Access Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-08-18 13:55 -0400
                Re: MS Access vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-08-15 04:24 +0000
                Re: MS Access Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-08-15 14:53 -0400
                Re: MS Access "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-08-17 00:22 -0400
                Re: MS Access Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-17 07:24 +0000
                Re: MS Access Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2024-08-17 23:46 -0700
                Re: MS Access The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-08-18 10:14 +0100
                Re: MS Access "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-08-19 23:55 -0400
                Re: MS Access rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-08-20 04:56 +0000
                Re: MS Access "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-08-19 23:23 -0400
                Re: MS Access Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-21 23:52 +0000
                Re: MS Access Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-09 01:15 +0000
                Re: MS Access Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-08-09 06:29 +0000
                Re: MS Access Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-09 06:32 +0000
                Re: MS Access Philip Herlihy <PhillipHerlihy@SlashDevNull.invalid> - 2024-08-08 12:19 +0100
                Re: MS Access Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-08-08 13:21 +0100
                Re: MS Access Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-09 01:15 +0000
                Re: MS Access Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-08-09 08:51 +0100
          Re: MS Access Big Al <alan@invalid.com> - 2024-08-05 09:03 -0400
          Re: MS Access (was: Re: Linux at scale) Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2024-08-05 12:05 -0700
            Re: MS Access "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2024-08-05 19:32 -0400
          Re: MS Access not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-08-06 08:47 +1000
            Re: MS Access Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-06 00:26 +0000
              Re: MS Access vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-08-07 02:16 +0000
                Re: MS Access Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-07 02:29 +0000
                Re: MS Access "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-08-07 02:02 -0400
                Re: MS Access Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-07 06:45 +0000
                Re: MS Access Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-08-07 22:30 +0000
                Re: MS Access Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-07 22:44 +0000
                Re: MS Access "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-08-07 21:44 -0400
                Re: MS Access Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-08 03:11 +0000
                Re: MS Access "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-08-12 00:28 -0400
                Re: MS Access Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-12 08:38 +0000
                Re: MS Access Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-08-12 14:16 -0400
                Re: MS Access Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-13 02:10 +0000
                Re: MS Access Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-08-13 12:53 -0400
                Re: MS Access Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-13 21:43 +0000
                Re: MS Access "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-08-13 01:33 -0400
                Re: MS Access Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-13 21:44 +0000
                Re: MS Access jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2024-08-13 23:21 +0100
                Re: MS Access Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-13 22:53 +0000
                Re: MS Access jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2024-08-14 09:19 +0100
                Re: MS Access Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-14 08:47 +0000
                Re: MS Access The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-08-14 10:09 +0100
                Re: MS Access Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-16 02:20 +0000
                Re: MS Access Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2024-08-16 09:11 +0100
                Re: MS Access The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-08-16 09:21 +0100
                Re: MS Access Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-08-13 23:28 -0400
                Re: MS Access Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-14 03:29 +0000
                Re: MS Access Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-08-14 04:13 -0400
                Re: MS Access Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-14 08:48 +0000
                Re: MS Access Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-08-14 12:49 -0400
                Re: MS Access Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-08-14 16:55 +0000
                Re: MS Access candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-08-11 05:30 +0000
                Re: MS Access Jack Strangio  <jackstrangio@yahoo.com> - 2024-08-11 07:17 +0000
                Re: MS Access candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-08-22 21:00 +0000
                Re: MS Access Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-08-11 04:15 -0400
                Re: MS Access Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-11 09:07 +0000
                Re: MS Access candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-08-23 22:00 +0000
                Re: MS Access Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-11 09:06 +0000
                Re: MS Access "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-08-07 21:39 -0400
                Re: MS Access Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-08 03:12 +0000
                Re: MS Access "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-08-12 00:23 -0400
                Re: MS Access Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-12 08:39 +0000
              Re: MS Access Just Me <meeeeee@meeeee.com> - 2024-08-07 12:59 +0000
                Re: MS Access Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-07 21:42 +0000
                Re: MS Access "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-08-07 21:53 -0400
                Re: MS Access Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-08 03:13 +0000
                Re: MS Access "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-08-12 00:33 -0400
                Re: MS Access Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-12 08:41 +0000
                Re: MS Access "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-08-13 01:31 -0400
                Re: MS Access Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-13 21:46 +0000
                Re: MS Access "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-08-14 03:42 -0400
                Re: MS Access Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-14 08:49 +0000
                Re: MS Access "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-08-17 23:30 -0400
                Re: MS Access rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-08-18 04:48 +0000
                Re: MS Access "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-08-18 01:17 -0400

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