Re: Old Hardware Redux

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On Thu, 21 Aug 2025 21:30:51 +0200
"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

> >>> Heh, maybe 16 megs.
> >>>  
> >> No GUI on that then...  
> > 
> > Maybe not with Linux, but a UNIX system of suitable vintage could.  
> 
> Windows 3 was a GUI, and it certainly worked in that.

There seems to be a peculiar notion that GUIs *have* to be insanely
bloated, glitzy, over-featured monstrosities that chew up a couple gigs
all by themselves. Windows 3.x or Mac System 7 would run perfectly well
in 4 MB, and with 8 MB had room to spare. Heck, even older vintages of
X11 (nobody's idea of a lightweight GUI) will run usably in a 16-32 MB.

But hey! It's certainly a convenient line of reasoning for modern GUI
developers who *do* chew up more memory just to run a display server/
window manager than you'd find in a whole entire PC twenty years ago!

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Old Hardware Redux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-20 02:12 -0400
  Re: Old Hardware Redux "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-20 12:38 +0200
    Re: Old Hardware Redux Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-08-20 13:30 +0200
      Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-20 12:33 +0100
        Re: Old Hardware Redux "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-20 13:52 +0200
          Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-20 14:10 +0100
            Re: Old Hardware Redux Joerg Walther <joerg.walther@magenta.de> - 2025-08-20 16:16 +0200
            Re: Old Hardware Redux "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-20 21:02 +0200
        Re: Old Hardware Redux not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-08-21 07:54 +1000
          Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-21 10:11 +0100
          Re: Old Hardware Redux Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-08-21 11:51 +0200
            Re: Old Hardware Redux Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-21 11:31 +0100
              Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-21 11:45 +0100
                Re: Old Hardware Redux "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-21 13:29 +0200
                Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-21 12:49 +0100
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Geoff Clare <geoff@clare.See-My-Signature.invalid> - 2025-08-21 13:44 +0100
                Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-21 14:28 +0100
                Re: Old Hardware Redux "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-21 21:30 +0200
                Re: Old Hardware Redux John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-21 13:05 -0700
                Re: Old Hardware Redux "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-21 22:21 +0200
                Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-22 11:03 +0100
                Re: Old Hardware Redux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-22 09:50 -0400
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-22 22:31 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-08-22 09:40 +1000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-22 02:55 -0400
            Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-21 11:37 +0100
              Re: Old Hardware Redux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-21 18:05 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-08-22 09:57 +1000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-22 00:36 +0000
              Re: Old Hardware Redux not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-08-22 09:28 +1000
              Re: Old Hardware Redux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-22 09:46 -0400
                Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-22 19:45 +0100
                Re: Old Hardware Redux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-23 00:01 -0400
                Re: Old Hardware Redux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-23 04:53 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-23 10:50 +0100
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-23 10:22 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-24 02:25 -0400
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-24 19:19 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-23 20:21 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-24 10:55 +0100
                Re: Old Hardware Redux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-24 20:02 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-25 12:30 +0100
                Re: Old Hardware Redux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-25 18:13 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-26 10:41 +0100
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-24 22:14 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-24 01:09 -0400
                Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-24 10:58 +0100
                Re: Old Hardware Redux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-24 20:12 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-24 14:33 -0700
                Re: Old Hardware Redux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-25 01:47 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-24 21:12 -0700
                Re: Old Hardware Redux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-25 04:34 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-24 21:49 -0700
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-25 05:33 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-25 01:34 -0400
                Re: Old Hardware Redux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-25 18:31 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-26 03:57 -0400
                Re: Old Hardware Redux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-26 19:58 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-25 12:44 +0100
                Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-25 12:40 +0100
                Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-25 12:34 +0100
                Re: Old Hardware Redux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-25 18:24 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-26 03:47 -0400
                Re: Old Hardware Redux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-26 20:01 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-27 00:09 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-23 10:43 +0100
                Re: Old Hardware Redux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-24 00:48 -0400
                Re: Old Hardware Redux not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-08-23 14:09 +1000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-23 06:59 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-08-23 13:02 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-08-24 09:13 +1000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-23 23:37 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-24 03:18 -0400
                Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-23 10:48 +0100
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-23 10:22 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-23 18:02 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-23 23:44 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-24 01:04 -0400
                Re: Old Hardware Redux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-24 20:20 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-25 12:24 +0100
                Re: Old Hardware Redux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-25 18:10 +0000
                Re: Old Hardware Redux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-26 03:42 -0400
                Re: Old Hardware Redux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-26 19:51 +0000
  Re: Old Hardware Redux Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-20 17:21 +0000
    Re: Old Hardware Redux Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-21 06:51 +0000
      Re: Old Hardware Redux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-21 03:15 -0400
        Re: Old Hardware Redux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-21 10:14 +0100
          Re: Old Hardware Redux Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-22 01:05 +0000
            Re: Old Hardware Redux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-22 03:00 -0400
    Re: Old Hardware Redux Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-21 10:45 +0100
      Re: Old Hardware Redux Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-21 18:15 +0000

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