Re: The First 8 Commands Every New User Should Learn

From	Rich <rich@example.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc
Subject	Re: The First 8 Commands Every New User Should Learn
Date	2025-11-14 19:11 +0000
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Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> wrote:
> Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> writes:
>> * Furthermore, cp and mv also take the “-i” option, which will ask 
>>   you to confirm if an item already exists under the new name.  
>>   Handy to guard against accidental overwrites.
> 
> It's funny, I remember a long ago some sysadmin spoke against these, 
> especially in aliases.  He felt people just start typing e.g.  \cp 
> always to bypass the alias and overwriting or deleting their 
> important files.  So, useless in his admin point of view.  Of course, 
> he was really just complaining he had to restore his users' files 
> back from backups.  I can't say I've bumbled with that very often, 
> despite having cp, mv and rm aliases with -i for over 30 years now 
> but I felt his point was kinda valid in a "don't do it, then" sort of 
> way.

He had a point, but he may not have expressed the "why" part well.

The default for cp/mv/rm is overwrite/remove.  One has to add -i to get 
the interactive "yes/no" confirm for overwrite/removal.

So if one blindly aliases, say, rm to 'rm -i'.  Then one gets 
into the habit of typing rm really_important_file* and having it 
prompt.

Then, one day while using a shell lacking those aliases (i.e., ssh to 
another machine that is not yet fully configured, new install of OS 
that is not yet finished being configured, shelled out from another 
program/editor and the shell is in non-interactive mode and so did not 
load the alias definitions, etc.) one is more likely to type rm 
really_important_file* and rather than being prompted as expected, all 
"really_important_file*"'s are simply gone.

My personal solution for that one, at least for 'rm', is that instead 
of aliasing rm to 'rm -i' I keep rm at it's default of "remove without 
asking".  I then alias 'del' to 'rm -i' (yes, I started out on DOS, so 
'del' is somewhat burned into my CLI mindset for 'delete file').  And I 
usually use my 'del' alias, unless I am sure at the outset I do in fact 
really want all these files gone with no prompts, then I use 'rm'.  But 
by using 'del' normally, if I'm using a server, or someone else's linux 
machine, or shelled out from another program without the aliases 
loaded, I get "command not found" if I try to "del file" instead of an 
automatic removal when I would otherwise expect to be prompted.

For mv/cp, as I'm on Linux with the GNU variants, if I'm worried about 
overwriting at the destination I just add --backup=numbered to keep the 
old file names around until I can verify I do in fact want them gone.

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  Re: The First 8 Commands Every New User Should Learn Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-05 23:12 +0000
  Re: The First 8 Commands Every New User Should Learn "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-06 13:55 +0100
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        Re: The First 8 Commands Every New User Should Learn "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-07 13:06 +0100
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            Re: The First 8 Commands Every New User Should Learn Diego Garcia <dg@linux.rocks> - 2025-11-08 11:56 +0000
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                Re: The First 8 Commands Every New User Should Learn Diego Garcia <dg@linux.rocks> - 2025-11-08 13:08 +0000
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                Re: The First 8 Commands Every New User Should Learn Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-08 16:05 +0000
                Re: The First 8 Commands Every New User Should Learn Diego Garcia <dg@chaos.rocks> - 2025-11-08 17:02 +0000
                Re: The First 8 Commands Every New User Should Learn Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-09 00:52 +0000
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                Re: The First 8 Commands Every New User Should Learn Diego Garcia <dg@chaos.rocks> - 2025-11-08 17:35 +0000
                Re: The First 8 Commands Every New User Should Learn Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-09 01:03 +0000
                Re: The First 8 Commands Every New User Should Learn The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-09 13:01 +0000
                Re: The First 8 Commands Every New User Should Learn Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-09 15:02 +0000
                Re: The First 8 Commands Every New User Should Learn The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-09 20:46 +0000
                Re: The First 8 Commands Every New User Should Learn Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-09 23:18 +0000
                Re: The First 8 Commands Every New User Should Learn The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-10 12:14 +0000
                Re: The First 8 Commands Every New User Should Learn Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-09 23:44 +0000
                Re: The First 8 Commands Every New User Should Learn Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-09 23:56 +0000
                Re: The First 8 Commands Every New User Should Learn The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-08 20:42 +0000
                Re: The First 8 Commands Every New User Should Learn rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-08 21:17 +0000
                Re: The First 8 Commands Every New User Should Learn Diego Garcia <dg@linux.rocks> - 2025-11-08 21:46 +0000
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                Re: The First 8 Commands Every New User Should Learn Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-11-09 13:55 +0000
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                Re: The First 8 Commands Every New User Should Learn The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-09 20:42 +0000
                Re: The First 8 Commands Every New User Should Learn "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-10 09:15 +0100
                Re: The First 8 Commands Every New User Should Learn Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-10 20:58 +0000
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                Re: The First 8 Commands Every New User Should Learn Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-09 22:36 +0000
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                Re: The First 8 Commands Every New User Should Learn Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-11-09 13:58 +0000
                Re: The First 8 Commands Every New User Should Learn The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-09 20:42 +0000
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                Re: The First 8 Commands Every New User Should Learn Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-09 09:53 +0000
                Re: The First 8 Commands Every New User Should Learn Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-11-09 13:45 +0000
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                Re: The First 8 Commands Every New User Should Learn rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-12 20:41 +0000
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                Re: The First 8 Commands Every New User Should Learn The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-08 20:42 +0000
                Re: The First 8 Commands Every New User Should Learn Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-08 21:53 +0000
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