Re: My Dinner With Marc Andreessen

From	D <nospam@example.net>
Newsgroups	comp.misc
Subject	Re: My Dinner With Marc Andreessen
Date	2024-07-10 12:31 +0200
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On Tue, 9 Jul 2024, vallor wrote:

> On Tue, 9 Jul 2024 12:09:35 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote in
> <a53335e6-987e-c786-9ad4-2ac963f2f340@example.net>:
>
>> On Mon, 8 Jul 2024, vallor wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 8 Jul 2024 12:22:16 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote in
>>> <1da9000c-47f2-06ff-3bab-9ebad5d2e6ba@example.net>:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 8 Jul 2024, vallor wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 7 Jul 2024 12:31:05 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote in
>>>>> <7896d979-7348-9c9c-d5a1-db664baa32fc@example.net>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> As for the natural state of the system in a free market, it is not
>>>>>> oligopoly. It is a diverse set of millions and millions of
>>>>>> companies.
>>>>>> One company governing all of earth would collapse the same way as
>>>>>> big governments (and I'm thinking world government) collapses due to
>>>>>> inefficient organization.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The free market is self organizing and decentralised, and that is
>>>>>> the natural state of it, without government creating and helping the
>>>>>> behemoths we have today.
>>>>>
>>>>> We should also do away with referees on soccer pitches, because the
>>> games
>>>>> will self organize.
>>>>
>>>> You have never played football without a judge? I've played plento of
>>>> self-organized football games. Some games self-organize with a judge
>>> some
>>>> without.
>>>>
>>>>> Seriously, I have just 2 comments:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) The bigotry from "Anonymous" was uncalled for, and 2) "free
>>>>> markets" are not to be desired.  _FAIR_ markets, are.
>>>>
>>>> See the article I sent, that shows why 1 and 2 are wrong.
>>>
>>> So you condone the bigotry.  Ad hominem fallacy #1.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> You can't have a fair market without fair referees...and there's the
>>> rub.
>>>>> _Some_ regulation is necessary.
>>>>
>>>> Incorrect. I've made 100s of thousands if not more without judges and
>>>> referees. Let me guess... you are not running your own company, right?
>>>
>>> So you refer to my personal circumstances as if it had any bearing on
>>> my arguments. Ad hominem fallacy #2.
>>>
>>> Now, it's true that my business partner and I started a company in 1994
>>> that is still going strong after 30 years, one with over 750 employees
>>> last time I checked.  And it's true that I speak from experience,
>>> because we are an ISP fighting two "elephants" in the market that
>>> continue their regulatory capture -- where we have fought for a fairer
>>> market.
>>>
>>> But again, referring to my personal circumstances only means you have a
>>> loose grasp of logic, and are prone to logical fallacies.
>>>
>>> I'll let you try again to make an argument without your disgusting
>>> bigotry or logical fallacies -- if you dare.
>>>
>>> And I'm not even going to approach a discussion of natural monopolies
>>> with respect to last-mile Internet or operating system standards -- at
>>> least, not with you, until you recognize your logical lapses.
>>
>> Sorry, you are incorrect.
>
> That is not an argument.
>
>> Not much we can do here.
>
> This much is true.  You run into an actual 1%-er -- one who
> thinks you're full of crap -- and you run for the hills.

So? I know 1%-er who agree with me.

> You were wrong on rasw, and you're wrong here, too.

No.

> But for someone who likes to say "we have nothing to talk about"
> so much, you sure do like to shoot your mouth off, Bigot.
>
> p.s. The article in the OP was excellent, and relatable by
> anyone with a conscience.

The fee article was excellent.

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