Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...]

From	Johanne Fairchild <jfairchild@tudado.org>
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Subject	Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...]
Date	2024-08-13 22:43 -0300
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The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> writes:

> On 8/9/24 1:28 PM, D wrote:
>> 
>> On Fri, 9 Aug 2024, The Real Bev wrote:
>> 
>>> On 8/7/24 12:57 AM, Richard Kettlewell wrote:
>>>> The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>> On 8/6/24 6:55 AM, Stefan Ram wrote:
>>>>>> The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote or quoted:
>>>>>>> What happens when there are no more toolmakers?
>>>>>> Well, if by "toolmakers" you mean those devs cranking out text
>>>>>> editors, search engines, or AI chatbots: We're swimming in them these
>>>>>> days, more than ever before in human history! So I'd say: I'll cross
>>>>>> that bridge when I come to it, if we ever actually run low on those
>>>>>> folks. (Sure, some tech fields are hurting for talent, but that's
>>>>>> probably not because of the new AI chatbots hitting the scene.)
>>>>> I mean people who have serious work to do and know how to make a
>>>>> computer do it for them.  REAL experts.  If there are only people who
>>>>> know how to use the tools already provided for them, who will make NEW
>>>>> tools?
>>>> Obviously nobody. But it’s a hypothetical situation which isn’t
>>>> about to
>>>> happen.
>>>
>>> I'm not so sure.  I look at the general dumbing down of our (and
>>> apparently non-USA) population and wonder if there are enough
>>> intelligent people left to make a difference.  Look at the
>>> schools. Loot at the governments. Look at the media.  Is there any
>>> reason to be optimistic?
>>>
>> In my case... short term no, long term, yes. We've survived, as a
>> species,
>> world wars, famines, pestilence. Anything we're seeing today is nothing in
>> comparison.
>
> We've never had as many people on earth as we have today, and there
> will be more.  At least in cities the big problem is just too many
> people, most of them pretty stupid.

Are you aware of current fertility rates?  Check it out.

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Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@g{oogle}mail.com> - 2024-07-24 11:58 +0300
  Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-24 11:08 +0200
    Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Johanne Fairchild <jfairchild@tudado.org> - 2024-07-24 10:21 -0300
    Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-07-24 15:10 -0700
      Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-25 11:24 +0200
        Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-07-25 12:03 +0000
          Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-25 17:38 +0200
            Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.moc> - 2024-07-26 01:16 +0300
              Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-26 10:44 +0200
                Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2024-07-26 19:49 +0000
            Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-07-25 20:04 -0700
              Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-26 10:52 +0200
                Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Johanne Fairchild <jfairchild@tudado.org> - 2024-07-26 09:21 -0300
                Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-26 18:35 +0200
              Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Retrograde <fungus@amongus.com.invalid> - 2024-07-27 03:06 +0000
                Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-27 11:25 +0200
                Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2024-07-27 13:38 +0000
                Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-27 20:03 +0200
          Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-07-25 19:52 -0700
        Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-08-05 21:48 -0700
          Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-08-06 17:14 -0700
            Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-08-07 08:57 +0100
              Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] arnold@skeeve.com (Aharon Robbins) - 2024-08-07 15:04 +0000
                Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-07 22:53 +0000
                Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2024-08-08 09:21 +0000
                Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-08 23:52 +0000
                Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2024-08-09 20:54 +0000
                Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-09 23:32 +0000
                Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2024-08-08 09:33 +0000
                Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-08-08 22:24 +0200
                Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-08-08 20:31 +0000
                Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-08-09 10:32 +0200
                Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-08-08 20:45 +0000
                Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-08 23:53 +0000
                Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2024-08-09 01:14 +0000
                Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-09 02:41 +0000
                Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2024-08-08 09:20 +0000
                Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Johanne Fairchild <jfairchild@tudado.org> - 2024-08-13 22:40 -0300
              Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-08-09 10:54 -0700
                Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-08-09 22:28 +0200
                Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-08-10 12:12 -0700
                Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Johanne Fairchild <jfairchild@tudado.org> - 2024-08-13 22:43 -0300
                Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] D <remailer@domain.invalid> - 2024-08-13 22:54 -0400
            Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2024-08-07 09:45 +0000
    Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] David LaRue <huey.dll@tampabay.rr.com> - 2024-08-05 14:49 +0000
      Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-08-05 21:45 +0200
  Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] George Musk <grgmusk@skiff.com> - 2024-07-25 11:49 +0000
    Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> - 2024-07-25 16:16 +0200
      Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> - 2024-07-25 15:13 +0042
        Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-25 17:39 +0200
      Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Johanne Fairchild <jfairchild@tudado.org> - 2024-07-25 12:27 -0300
        Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-25 23:40 +0200
          Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-07-26 16:40 +0000
            Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-26 22:38 +0200
        Re: Emigration from Usenet Johanne Fairchild <jfairchild@tudado.org> - 2024-07-26 19:38 -0300
          Re: Emigration from Usenet Johanne Fairchild <jfairchild@tudado.org> - 2024-07-27 10:03 -0300
          Re: Emigration from Usenet Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-07-27 17:24 +0100
            Re: Emigration from Usenet D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-27 20:06 +0200
              Re: Emigration from Usenet Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-07-27 18:31 +0000
                Re: Emigration from Usenet D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-28 11:23 +0200
            Re: Emigration from Usenet Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-07-27 21:01 +0100
              Re: Emigration from Usenet The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-07-27 18:48 -0700
              Re: Emigration from Usenet D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-28 11:25 +0200
              Re: Emigration from Usenet Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-07-28 10:53 +0100
                Re: Emigration from Usenet Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-07-28 16:00 +0000
                Re: Emigration from Usenet Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-07-28 21:35 +0100
                Re: Emigration from Usenet Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-07-28 20:51 +0000
                Re: Emigration from Usenet D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-28 19:14 +0200
            Re: Emigration from Usenet Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2024-07-28 19:48 +0200
            Re: Emigration from Usenet Johanne Fairchild <jfairchild@tudado.org> - 2024-07-28 21:58 -0300
              Re: Emigration from Usenet Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-07-29 08:50 +0100
                Re: Emigration from Usenet Javier <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-07-29 08:51 +0000
                Re: Emigration from Usenet yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> - 2024-07-29 09:51 +0042
                Re: Emigration from Usenet Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-07-29 12:58 +0000
                Re: Emigration from Usenet Johanne Fairchild <jfairchild@tudado.org> - 2024-07-29 20:50 -0300
                Re: Emigration from Usenet Johanne Fairchild <jfairchild@tudado.org> - 2024-07-30 11:55 -0300
                Re: Emigration from Usenet Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-30 20:35 +0000
                Re: Emigration from Usenet Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-07-29 14:21 +0100
            Re: Emigration from Usenet Johanne Fairchild <jfairchild@tudado.org> - 2024-07-28 22:00 -0300
              Re: Emigration from Usenet The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-07-28 19:41 -0700
                Re: Emigration from Usenet Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2024-07-29 14:20 -0300
                Re: Emigration from Usenet The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-07-29 10:51 -0700
              Re: Emigration from Usenet D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-29 11:09 +0200
      Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-07-25 16:53 +0000
        Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-07-26 08:21 +1000
          Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.moc> - 2024-07-26 01:33 +0300
            Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2024-07-26 13:42 +1000
              Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-26 11:00 +0200
                Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2024-07-26 22:18 +1000
                Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-28 01:55 +0000
              Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2024-08-12 17:13 +0100
                Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-08-13 08:12 +1000

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