Re: Emigration from Usenet

From	Johanne Fairchild <jfairchild@tudado.org>
Newsgroups	comp.misc
Subject	Re: Emigration from Usenet
Date	2024-07-28 22:00 -0300
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
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ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) writes:

> Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote or quoted:
>>ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) writes:
>>>The experts used to be here. Linux was announced in comp.os.minix.
> . . .
>>The ‘expert’ conversations are still happening, just not on Usenet.  You
>>can find them in mailing lists, blogs, issue trackers, papers, etc.
>
>   BTW: I shouldn't be calling Linus Torvalds and the others
>   I mentioned “experts.” That would be a serious downgrade for
>   them! These folks are top-tier innovators. But yeah, there
>   were definitely experts back in the Usenet days, and some
>   of them are still around in certain Newsgroups.

Yes.  ``Expert'' has been redefined.

>>A core problem with Usenet is that you can’t exclude people whose net
>>contribution to a discussion is negative.
>
>   Or maybe the real issue is the folks who think you can't just block
>   certain people out? Yeah, Usenet expects everyone to manage their
>   own filters. If someone’s bugging you, you can totally filter them
>   out of your feed. And if it drives you nuts to see how others respond
>   to them, just find a newsreader that lets you filter that too!
>   Heck, you can filter posts that have a specific word pattern in them!
>   But it’s not like there’s a central authority doing that for you.

It's true that NNTP is able to handle the job, but most people are not
willing to be experts at using NNTP clients.

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Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@g{oogle}mail.com> - 2024-07-24 11:58 +0300
  Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-24 11:08 +0200
    Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Johanne Fairchild <jfairchild@tudado.org> - 2024-07-24 10:21 -0300
    Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-07-24 15:10 -0700
      Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-25 11:24 +0200
        Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-07-25 12:03 +0000
          Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-25 17:38 +0200
            Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.moc> - 2024-07-26 01:16 +0300
              Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-26 10:44 +0200
                Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2024-07-26 19:49 +0000
            Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-07-25 20:04 -0700
              Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-26 10:52 +0200
                Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Johanne Fairchild <jfairchild@tudado.org> - 2024-07-26 09:21 -0300
                Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-26 18:35 +0200
              Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Retrograde <fungus@amongus.com.invalid> - 2024-07-27 03:06 +0000
                Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-27 11:25 +0200
                Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2024-07-27 13:38 +0000
                Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-27 20:03 +0200
          Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-07-25 19:52 -0700
        Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-08-05 21:48 -0700
          Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-08-06 17:14 -0700
            Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-08-07 08:57 +0100
              Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] arnold@skeeve.com (Aharon Robbins) - 2024-08-07 15:04 +0000
                Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-07 22:53 +0000
                Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2024-08-08 09:21 +0000
                Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-08 23:52 +0000
                Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2024-08-09 20:54 +0000
                Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-09 23:32 +0000
                Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2024-08-08 09:33 +0000
                Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-08-08 22:24 +0200
                Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-08-08 20:31 +0000
                Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-08-09 10:32 +0200
                Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-08-08 20:45 +0000
                Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-08 23:53 +0000
                Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2024-08-09 01:14 +0000
                Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-09 02:41 +0000
                Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2024-08-08 09:20 +0000
                Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Johanne Fairchild <jfairchild@tudado.org> - 2024-08-13 22:40 -0300
              Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-08-09 10:54 -0700
                Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-08-09 22:28 +0200
                Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-08-10 12:12 -0700
                Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Johanne Fairchild <jfairchild@tudado.org> - 2024-08-13 22:43 -0300
                Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] D <remailer@domain.invalid> - 2024-08-13 22:54 -0400
            Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2024-08-07 09:45 +0000
    Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] David LaRue <huey.dll@tampabay.rr.com> - 2024-08-05 14:49 +0000
      Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-08-05 21:45 +0200
  Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] George Musk <grgmusk@skiff.com> - 2024-07-25 11:49 +0000
    Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> - 2024-07-25 16:16 +0200
      Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> - 2024-07-25 15:13 +0042
        Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-25 17:39 +0200
      Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Johanne Fairchild <jfairchild@tudado.org> - 2024-07-25 12:27 -0300
        Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-25 23:40 +0200
          Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-07-26 16:40 +0000
            Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-26 22:38 +0200
        Re: Emigration from Usenet Johanne Fairchild <jfairchild@tudado.org> - 2024-07-26 19:38 -0300
          Re: Emigration from Usenet Johanne Fairchild <jfairchild@tudado.org> - 2024-07-27 10:03 -0300
          Re: Emigration from Usenet Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-07-27 17:24 +0100
            Re: Emigration from Usenet D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-27 20:06 +0200
              Re: Emigration from Usenet Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-07-27 18:31 +0000
                Re: Emigration from Usenet D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-28 11:23 +0200
            Re: Emigration from Usenet Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-07-27 21:01 +0100
              Re: Emigration from Usenet The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-07-27 18:48 -0700
              Re: Emigration from Usenet D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-28 11:25 +0200
              Re: Emigration from Usenet Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-07-28 10:53 +0100
                Re: Emigration from Usenet Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-07-28 16:00 +0000
                Re: Emigration from Usenet Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-07-28 21:35 +0100
                Re: Emigration from Usenet Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-07-28 20:51 +0000
                Re: Emigration from Usenet D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-28 19:14 +0200
            Re: Emigration from Usenet Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2024-07-28 19:48 +0200
            Re: Emigration from Usenet Johanne Fairchild <jfairchild@tudado.org> - 2024-07-28 21:58 -0300
              Re: Emigration from Usenet Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-07-29 08:50 +0100
                Re: Emigration from Usenet Javier <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-07-29 08:51 +0000
                Re: Emigration from Usenet yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> - 2024-07-29 09:51 +0042
                Re: Emigration from Usenet Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-07-29 12:58 +0000
                Re: Emigration from Usenet Johanne Fairchild <jfairchild@tudado.org> - 2024-07-29 20:50 -0300
                Re: Emigration from Usenet Johanne Fairchild <jfairchild@tudado.org> - 2024-07-30 11:55 -0300
                Re: Emigration from Usenet Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-30 20:35 +0000
                Re: Emigration from Usenet Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-07-29 14:21 +0100
            Re: Emigration from Usenet Johanne Fairchild <jfairchild@tudado.org> - 2024-07-28 22:00 -0300
              Re: Emigration from Usenet The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-07-28 19:41 -0700
                Re: Emigration from Usenet Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2024-07-29 14:20 -0300
                Re: Emigration from Usenet The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-07-29 10:51 -0700
              Re: Emigration from Usenet D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-29 11:09 +0200
      Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-07-25 16:53 +0000
        Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-07-26 08:21 +1000
          Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.moc> - 2024-07-26 01:33 +0300
            Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2024-07-26 13:42 +1000
              Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-26 11:00 +0200
                Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2024-07-26 22:18 +1000
                Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-28 01:55 +0000
              Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2024-08-12 17:13 +0100
                Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-08-13 08:12 +1000

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