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| From | Johanne Fairchild <jfairchild@tudado.org> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.misc |
| Subject | Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] |
| Date | 2024-08-13 22:40 -0300 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <871q2r7uh7.fsf@tudado.org> (permalink) |
| References | <uvej5e$34pfl$8@dont-email.me> <toolmakers-20240806145434@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de> <v8ue8n$1uv83$1@dont-email.me> <wwvfrrgrci1.fsf@LkoBDZeT.terraraq.uk> <66b38cf5$0$706$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> |
arnold@skeeve.com (Aharon Robbins) writes: > In article <wwvfrrgrci1.fsf@LkoBDZeT.terraraq.uk>, > Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote: >>The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> writes: >>> On 8/6/24 6:55 AM, Stefan Ram wrote: >>>> The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote or quoted: >>>>>What happens when there are no more toolmakers? >>>> Well, if by "toolmakers" you mean those devs cranking out text >>>> editors, search engines, or AI chatbots: We're swimming in them these >>>> days, more than ever before in human history! So I'd say: I'll cross >>>> that bridge when I come to it, if we ever actually run low on those >>>> folks. (Sure, some tech fields are hurting for talent, but that's >>>> probably not because of the new AI chatbots hitting the scene.) >>> >>> I mean people who have serious work to do and know how to make a >>> computer do it for them. REAL experts. If there are only people who >>> know how to use the tools already provided for them, who will make NEW >>> tools? >> >>Obviously nobody. But it’s a hypothetical situation which isn’t about to >>happen. > > Don't be sure. A CS professor I know told me this last week: > > I'm one of the very few that teach Systems. It amazes me that > our PhD students almost all in AI have never heard of a program > counter. > > Scary times. I'm glad I retire from software development in a few years. Fear not: You can twist perception Reality won't budge. -- ``Show Don't Tell'', Neil Peart, 1989.
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Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@g{oogle}mail.com> - 2024-07-24 11:58 +0300
Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-24 11:08 +0200
Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Johanne Fairchild <jfairchild@tudado.org> - 2024-07-24 10:21 -0300
Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-07-24 15:10 -0700
Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-25 11:24 +0200
Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-07-25 12:03 +0000
Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-25 17:38 +0200
Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.moc> - 2024-07-26 01:16 +0300
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Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2024-07-26 19:49 +0000
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Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Johanne Fairchild <jfairchild@tudado.org> - 2024-07-26 09:21 -0300
Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-26 18:35 +0200
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Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-27 11:25 +0200
Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2024-07-27 13:38 +0000
Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-27 20:03 +0200
Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-07-25 19:52 -0700
Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-08-05 21:48 -0700
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Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-08-07 08:57 +0100
Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] arnold@skeeve.com (Aharon Robbins) - 2024-08-07 15:04 +0000
Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-07 22:53 +0000
Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2024-08-08 09:21 +0000
Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-08 23:52 +0000
Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2024-08-09 20:54 +0000
Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-09 23:32 +0000
Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2024-08-08 09:33 +0000
Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-08-08 22:24 +0200
Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-08-08 20:31 +0000
Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-08-09 10:32 +0200
Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-08-08 20:45 +0000
Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-08 23:53 +0000
Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2024-08-09 01:14 +0000
Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-09 02:41 +0000
Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2024-08-08 09:20 +0000
Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Johanne Fairchild <jfairchild@tudado.org> - 2024-08-13 22:40 -0300
Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-08-09 10:54 -0700
Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-08-09 22:28 +0200
Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-08-10 12:12 -0700
Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Johanne Fairchild <jfairchild@tudado.org> - 2024-08-13 22:43 -0300
Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] D <remailer@domain.invalid> - 2024-08-13 22:54 -0400
Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2024-08-07 09:45 +0000
Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] David LaRue <huey.dll@tampabay.rr.com> - 2024-08-05 14:49 +0000
Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-08-05 21:45 +0200
Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] George Musk <grgmusk@skiff.com> - 2024-07-25 11:49 +0000
Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> - 2024-07-25 16:16 +0200
Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> - 2024-07-25 15:13 +0042
Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-25 17:39 +0200
Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Johanne Fairchild <jfairchild@tudado.org> - 2024-07-25 12:27 -0300
Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-25 23:40 +0200
Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-07-26 16:40 +0000
Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-26 22:38 +0200
Re: Emigration from Usenet Johanne Fairchild <jfairchild@tudado.org> - 2024-07-26 19:38 -0300
Re: Emigration from Usenet Johanne Fairchild <jfairchild@tudado.org> - 2024-07-27 10:03 -0300
Re: Emigration from Usenet Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-07-27 17:24 +0100
Re: Emigration from Usenet D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-27 20:06 +0200
Re: Emigration from Usenet Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-07-27 18:31 +0000
Re: Emigration from Usenet D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-28 11:23 +0200
Re: Emigration from Usenet Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-07-27 21:01 +0100
Re: Emigration from Usenet The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-07-27 18:48 -0700
Re: Emigration from Usenet D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-28 11:25 +0200
Re: Emigration from Usenet Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-07-28 10:53 +0100
Re: Emigration from Usenet Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-07-28 16:00 +0000
Re: Emigration from Usenet Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-07-28 21:35 +0100
Re: Emigration from Usenet Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-07-28 20:51 +0000
Re: Emigration from Usenet D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-28 19:14 +0200
Re: Emigration from Usenet Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2024-07-28 19:48 +0200
Re: Emigration from Usenet Johanne Fairchild <jfairchild@tudado.org> - 2024-07-28 21:58 -0300
Re: Emigration from Usenet Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-07-29 08:50 +0100
Re: Emigration from Usenet Javier <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-07-29 08:51 +0000
Re: Emigration from Usenet yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> - 2024-07-29 09:51 +0042
Re: Emigration from Usenet Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-07-29 12:58 +0000
Re: Emigration from Usenet Johanne Fairchild <jfairchild@tudado.org> - 2024-07-29 20:50 -0300
Re: Emigration from Usenet Johanne Fairchild <jfairchild@tudado.org> - 2024-07-30 11:55 -0300
Re: Emigration from Usenet Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-30 20:35 +0000
Re: Emigration from Usenet Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-07-29 14:21 +0100
Re: Emigration from Usenet Johanne Fairchild <jfairchild@tudado.org> - 2024-07-28 22:00 -0300
Re: Emigration from Usenet The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-07-28 19:41 -0700
Re: Emigration from Usenet Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2024-07-29 14:20 -0300
Re: Emigration from Usenet The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-07-29 10:51 -0700
Re: Emigration from Usenet D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-29 11:09 +0200
Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-07-25 16:53 +0000
Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-07-26 08:21 +1000
Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.moc> - 2024-07-26 01:33 +0300
Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2024-07-26 13:42 +1000
Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-26 11:00 +0200
Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2024-07-26 22:18 +1000
Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-28 01:55 +0000
Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2024-08-12 17:13 +0100
Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-08-13 08:12 +1000
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