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| Date | Wed, 27 May 2015 18:20:27 +1000 |
| Subject | Re: should "self" be changed? |
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On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 5:39 PM, Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> wrote: > Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>: > >> Using some other name in place of "self" should definitely remain >> *possible*, but not commonly done. > > You are effectively making the argument that Python has made a mistake > by not giving "self" a special, language-level status. Uhh... no I'm not. I'm saying it should be possible to use some other name instead of "self", which means that Python got it right by not making it special. ChrisA
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should "self" be changed? zipher <dreamingforward@gmail.com> - 2015-05-26 09:37 -0700
Re: should "self" be changed? Laura Creighton <lac@openend.se> - 2015-05-26 18:57 +0200
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