Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.redatomik.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.038 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.92; '*S*': 0.00; 'special,': 0.09; 'cc:addr :python-list': 0.10; 'python': 0.11; 'wed,': 0.15; 'argument': 0.15; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'status.': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'cc:2**0': 0.21; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.21; 'saying': 0.22; '2015': 0.23; 'header :In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'chris': 0.26; 'not.': 0.27; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.28; "i'm": 0.29; 'subject:?': 0.34; 'received:google.com': 0.34; 'but': 0.36; 'possible': 0.36; 'subject:" ': 0.36; 'should': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'done.': 0.37; 'instead': 0.38; 'means': 0.39; 'pm,': 0.39; 'some': 0.40; 'making': 0.64; 'chrisa': 0.84; 'subject:self': 0.84; 'to:none': 0.90; 'mistake': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=PTQgrzXtoC34VfYQp0kTwoiuqBmd2hJg7+hkyfV/EF4=; b=IIR7N1/3HkZA0LoOhImYsyNs98uxxEA9NCbnnyVLuZT/sL0R150dhOvI2mKRC/w+IT zK8i6TtJ62idpuHd+Xl7B/e4zOD26YoL23XaH2Dy0+FFBcopsxSYE9xXwSBH2UHak8d7 FyXsw9ubr0FYfZyC0ImBniwVGDVObNGSkZnc35IV6cogI4cBQU372+MM1B4HSNaruCim URuVLnRdNn+H9684Fr3s4OX8ClNteuThkNa5riGjvk23+/A8XBZa/V7yWXQZRc+tCdrj e0TXmzShYU4nNYrcYsXLdM75TSTKjOjqXSCiG5JRmWur9sK2JBxeWrDWX9OsBhmP8d7n X8hg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.160.141 with SMTP id j135mr40623765ioe.43.1432714827634; Wed, 27 May 2015 01:20:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <874mmybhb7.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> References: <551c8229-f426-45f0-a0ee-fdad1b161f59@googlegroups.com> <556554d9$0$2796$c3e8da3$76491128@news.astraweb.com> <874mmybhb7.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 18:20:27 +1000 Subject: Re: should "self" be changed? From: Chris Angelico Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 14 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1432714830 news.xs4all.nl 2944 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:54177 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:91290 On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 5:39 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > Chris Angelico : > >> Using some other name in place of "self" should definitely remain >> *possible*, but not commonly done. > > You are effectively making the argument that Python has made a mistake > by not giving "self" a special, language-level status. Uhh... no I'm not. I'm saying it should be possible to use some other name instead of "self", which means that Python got it right by not making it special. ChrisA