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Re: Mac vs. Linux for Python Development

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From "Frank Millman" <frank@chagford.com>
Subject Re: Mac vs. Linux for Python Development
Date Sun, 2 Mar 2014 09:35:29 +0200
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"Chris Angelico" <rosuav@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Frank Millman <frank@chagford.com> wrote:
>> Which version are you talking about?
>>
>> I have an old, slow box running Windows Server 2003 and python 3.3.2.
>>
>> I have just booted it up now, called up a command prompt, typed 'python'
>> to
>> start the interpreter, and typed 'import decimal'. The interpreter prompt
>> re-appeared in the blink of an eye.
>>
>> Are you talking about something else?
>
> I did it in IDLE, which might have added a bit, but not hugely. It was
> 3.4.0, so the module in both cases is the C-accelerated version. My
> suspicion is that you've used the decimal module already on that
> system, so you had a warm cache. When I repeat the exercise, I get
> sub-second load times (usually of the order of 100-200ms); the
> difference between that and your "blink of an eye" would be to do with
> exactness of measurement, CPU/HDD performance, etc, etc, etc.
>

I assume by 'warm cache' you mean that I had used the decimal module before 
and not switched the machine off before trying the above exercise.

In my case, the machine was switched off before I started. I switched it on 
and executed the above steps.

To be slightly more precise, instead of 'the blink of an eye', I estimate it 
was between 250-500 ms. If I close the interpreter and start it up again, it 
takes maybe 100-200ms.

Just to be sure, I switched the machine off and on again, and repeated the 
exercise. Starting the interpreter for the first time takes 1.5 - 2 seconds. 
Importing decimal for the first time takes less than 500ms.

Frank

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Mac vs. Linux for Python Development twiz <twizansk@gmail.com> - 2014-02-23 00:43 -0800
  Re: Mac vs. Linux for Python Development Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-02-23 19:58 +1100
    Re: Mac vs. Linux for Python Development twiz <twizansk@gmail.com> - 2014-02-23 02:17 -0800
      Re: Mac vs. Linux for Python Development Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-02-23 21:24 +1100
      Re: Mac vs. Linux for Python Development Ned Deily <nad@acm.org> - 2014-02-23 03:49 -0800
  Re: Mac vs. Linux for Python Development Andriy Kornatskyy <andriy.kornatskyy@live.com> - 2014-02-23 11:51 +0200
  Re: Mac vs. Linux for Python Development "Günther Dietrich" <gd.usenet@spamfence.net> - 2014-02-23 12:34 +0100
  Re: Mac vs. Linux for Python Development Dave Cook <davecook@nowhere.net> - 2014-02-24 03:37 +0000
  Re: Mac vs. Linux for Python Development William Ray Wing <wrw@mac.com> - 2014-02-24 10:33 -0500
  Re: Mac vs. Linux for Python Development Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2014-02-24 10:34 -0700
  Re: Mac vs. Linux for Python Development Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2014-02-24 10:42 -0700
  Re: Mac vs. Linux for Python Development Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-02-25 05:37 +1100
    Re: Mac vs. Linux for Python Development Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2014-02-24 19:35 +0000
  Re: Mac vs. Linux for Python Development Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-02-23 09:20 -0500
  Re: Mac vs. Linux for Python Development "Mark H. Harris" <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-01 14:32 -0800
    Re: Mac vs. Linux for Python Development Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-02 09:57 +1100
    Re: Mac vs. Linux for Python Development Ned Deily <nad@acm.org> - 2014-03-01 15:07 -0800
    Re: Mac vs. Linux for Python Development "Frank Millman" <frank@chagford.com> - 2014-03-02 07:51 +0200
    Re: Mac vs. Linux for Python Development Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-02 17:57 +1100
    Re: Mac vs. Linux for Python Development "Frank Millman" <frank@chagford.com> - 2014-03-02 09:35 +0200
    Re: Mac vs. Linux for Python Development Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-02 20:58 +1100

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