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Re: Mac vs. Linux for Python Development

From Ned Deily <nad@acm.org>
Subject Re: Mac vs. Linux for Python Development
Date 2014-03-01 15:07 -0800
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In article <4e741358-ce12-40ac-97b8-3bbbf2d6ddca@googlegroups.com>,
 "Mark H. Harris" <harrismh777@gmail.com> wrote:
> [...]
> The main problem you will see with OSX (if you're not careful) is that IDLE 
> will be unstable.  To be fair about it, its not IDLE's problem, per se.  Its 
> about tcl/tk tkinter.  DO NOT use the built-in tcl that comes from Apple, nor 
> the one that comes through the Apple store!  Actually go to the Active TCL 
> site and download the version related to your system (yes there is a 
> different one depending on 10.5 10.6 etc).

The gory details are here:
http://www.python.org/download/mac/tcltk/

TL;DR You'll need to install newer versions of Python (like those 
download from python.org) that link with third-party builds of Tcl/Tk 
rather than use the Pythons and Tcl/Tk that Apple ships with OS X 10.6+.

> [...]
> If you want to use terminals on OSX you'll want to install  Quartz  and run 
> the terminal on the emulated X environment.  It works better for python IMHO. 
>  The built-in terminal for OSX need serious configuring (which is possible) 
> because its color is bad, and its tiny by default, with a crummy font. All of 
> that can be changed, but it just works better to use XQuartz.

That certainly is a matter of preference.  There are plenty of drawbacks 
to using X11-based apps on OS X.  I wouldn't advise new users to OS X to 
go that route unless they were really set on using X11 entirely and, in 
that case, why use OS X at all?  If you don't like Apple's built-in 
Terminal.app, another option is to use iTerm 2, an open source native 
alternative that has many more features.  

http://www.iterm2.com/

It's also available through MacPorts.

-- 
 Ned Deily,
 nad@acm.org

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Mac vs. Linux for Python Development twiz <twizansk@gmail.com> - 2014-02-23 00:43 -0800
  Re: Mac vs. Linux for Python Development Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-02-23 19:58 +1100
    Re: Mac vs. Linux for Python Development twiz <twizansk@gmail.com> - 2014-02-23 02:17 -0800
      Re: Mac vs. Linux for Python Development Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-02-23 21:24 +1100
      Re: Mac vs. Linux for Python Development Ned Deily <nad@acm.org> - 2014-02-23 03:49 -0800
  Re: Mac vs. Linux for Python Development Andriy Kornatskyy <andriy.kornatskyy@live.com> - 2014-02-23 11:51 +0200
  Re: Mac vs. Linux for Python Development "Günther Dietrich" <gd.usenet@spamfence.net> - 2014-02-23 12:34 +0100
  Re: Mac vs. Linux for Python Development Dave Cook <davecook@nowhere.net> - 2014-02-24 03:37 +0000
  Re: Mac vs. Linux for Python Development William Ray Wing <wrw@mac.com> - 2014-02-24 10:33 -0500
  Re: Mac vs. Linux for Python Development Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2014-02-24 10:34 -0700
  Re: Mac vs. Linux for Python Development Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2014-02-24 10:42 -0700
  Re: Mac vs. Linux for Python Development Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-02-25 05:37 +1100
    Re: Mac vs. Linux for Python Development Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2014-02-24 19:35 +0000
  Re: Mac vs. Linux for Python Development Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-02-23 09:20 -0500
  Re: Mac vs. Linux for Python Development "Mark H. Harris" <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-01 14:32 -0800
    Re: Mac vs. Linux for Python Development Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-02 09:57 +1100
    Re: Mac vs. Linux for Python Development Ned Deily <nad@acm.org> - 2014-03-01 15:07 -0800
    Re: Mac vs. Linux for Python Development "Frank Millman" <frank@chagford.com> - 2014-03-02 07:51 +0200
    Re: Mac vs. Linux for Python Development Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-02 17:57 +1100
    Re: Mac vs. Linux for Python Development "Frank Millman" <frank@chagford.com> - 2014-03-02 09:35 +0200
    Re: Mac vs. Linux for Python Development Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-02 20:58 +1100

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