Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.016 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.97; '*S*': 0.00; 'importing': 0.05; 'interpreter': 0.05; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'executed': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'repeated': 0.09; 'sure,': 0.09; 'typed': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'assume': 0.14; 'wrote': 0.14; 'windows': 0.15; 'booted': 0.16; 'idle,': 0.16; 'interpreter,': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'seconds.': 0.16; 'skip:n 70': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'module': 0.19; 'trying': 0.19; 'slightly': 0.19; 'version.': 0.19; 'command': 0.22; 'machine': 0.22; 'load': 0.23; 'switched': 0.24; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; '(usually': 0.31; 'decimal': 0.31; 'running': 0.33; 'cases': 0.33; 'maybe': 0.34; 'received:co.za': 0.34; 'received:za': 0.34; 'something': 0.35; 'case,': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'version': 0.36; 'starting': 0.37; 'system,': 0.38; 'server': 0.38; 'to:addr :python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'called': 0.40; 'warm': 0.60; 'first': 0.61; 'times': 0.62; "you've": 0.63; 'more': 0.64; 'talking': 0.65; 'subject:. ': 0.67; 'between': 0.67; 'close': 0.67; 'mar': 0.68; 'frank': 0.68; 'prompt': 0.68; 'started.': 0.68; 'received:41': 0.70; 'repeat': 0.74; 'about?': 0.84; 'etc,': 0.84; 'exercise,': 0.84; 'exercise.': 0.84; 'ms.': 0.84; 'suspicion': 0.84; 'old,': 0.85; 'steps.': 0.91; 'subject:Development': 0.95 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: "Frank Millman" Subject: Re: Mac vs. Linux for Python Development Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2014 09:35:29 +0200 References: <2465a8c7-ce0e-4606-ad3b-9135c96e3e4c@googlegroups.com> <4e741358-ce12-40ac-97b8-3bbbf2d6ddca@googlegroups.com> X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 41-133-115-156.dsl.mweb.co.za X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.3790.4657 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4913 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 42 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1393745744 news.xs4all.nl 2867 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:47545 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:67413 "Chris Angelico" wrote in message news:CAPTjJmrmJjiGMfqui=PpJco7LjtqVpUjj=XNmTYbYQEmxG3fmw@mail.gmail.com... > On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Frank Millman wrote: >> Which version are you talking about? >> >> I have an old, slow box running Windows Server 2003 and python 3.3.2. >> >> I have just booted it up now, called up a command prompt, typed 'python' >> to >> start the interpreter, and typed 'import decimal'. The interpreter prompt >> re-appeared in the blink of an eye. >> >> Are you talking about something else? > > I did it in IDLE, which might have added a bit, but not hugely. It was > 3.4.0, so the module in both cases is the C-accelerated version. My > suspicion is that you've used the decimal module already on that > system, so you had a warm cache. When I repeat the exercise, I get > sub-second load times (usually of the order of 100-200ms); the > difference between that and your "blink of an eye" would be to do with > exactness of measurement, CPU/HDD performance, etc, etc, etc. > I assume by 'warm cache' you mean that I had used the decimal module before and not switched the machine off before trying the above exercise. In my case, the machine was switched off before I started. I switched it on and executed the above steps. To be slightly more precise, instead of 'the blink of an eye', I estimate it was between 250-500 ms. If I close the interpreter and start it up again, it takes maybe 100-200ms. Just to be sure, I switched the machine off and on again, and repeated the exercise. Starting the interpreter for the first time takes 1.5 - 2 seconds. Importing decimal for the first time takes less than 500ms. Frank